vintage-race
[Top] [All Lists]

Re: crack-up at the historics

To: vintage-race@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: crack-up at the historics
From: Tony Drews <tmccis@revealed.net>
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 00:14:22 -0500
Well, I saw the incident (over and over) on Speedvision.  I called it "ill 
advised" for a
couple of reasons:
1. It resulted in damage to 3 significant cars.  (The Maserati, a Lister 
Corvette?, and one
of the old Yaller cars which was T-boned)
2. Phil was in the dirt, off the track to the inside.  I suspect his brakes 
didn't work as
well there.  :)  He basically slid into the rear quarter of the Lister.  He did 
pass one
car cleanly on his way to the Lister, though.  That particular pass was as you 
describe - a
classic outbraking, down the inside pass.  Unfortunately, it didn't end there...
3. It was "ill advised" in retrospect - rather exciting at the time, though.  
If he had
gotten away with it, I would have called it an "agressive pass".

In Phil's defense, the spin of Old Yaller which ended up causing the majority 
of the damage
may have been in sympathy of Phil's contact with the Lister.  It really should 
have been a
"light bump" to the Lister and ended there until Old Yaller spun into Phil's 
path.

I agree with you that I want to see racing (not a parade), other drivers should 
be aware,
etc.

Also, this is entirely my opinion, is subjective (not fact), your mileage may 
vary.

- Tony

Susan and John Roper wrote:

> Whoa, guys.  i did not see the incident, but have problems with it being 
>described as
> an ill-advised charge down the inside.  Too many of these incidents are the 
>result of a
> "racer" who does not use his or her mirrors and give way when someone has 
>gotten
> inside.  A "charge down the inside" is the essential roadracing pass, and 
>requires the
> driver who has been passed to be aware and to concede the line if the passing 
>car got
> there before he did.  I understand that there are some vintage racers who 
>would prefer
> a parade.  Me, I like races and racers, not poseurs who don't bother to learn 
>how to do
> it.  Nomex on.  Fire away.  John
>
> Tony Drews wrote:
>
> > Of course, it was none other than Phil Hill in the Maserati making an (ill 
>advised,
> > it turns out) charge down the inside of turn 1.  I don't think he had as 
>much fun
> > in that race as he'd hoped to.  :)
> >
> > - Tony
> >
> > mdunst@smtplink.coh.org wrote:
> >
> > > I was just speechless, with mouth agape when I saw the pretty Maseratti 
>tag the
> > > Lister Corvette then T-bone another. ...to be on live TV for all to see 
>(over
> > > and Over).
> > >
> > > Mordy


<Prev in Thread] Current Thread [Next in Thread>