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To: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>, triumphs@autox.team.net sUjNds9oJI7ExdD2Qt9rej3iesntdRjZvMGbKLWY02g/73eDC68aOMxs74Melvl8QmqY2f3 nHJDcNy11yp7g9mSy6ofsjqyb/KPzKpN8Bbn37Cn76eTTR+VG5l3RcTZpW9fCfS/yZc2/JZ llolLMLws6ot0sEnbB5zg==
Subject: Re: [TR] Re Facebook
From: John Macartney <johnbmacartney@gmx.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2024 10:47:01 +0000
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Perhaps I should send Dave N a copy of the handbook for my Kia Sorento to ki=
ndly unravel for me? I=E2=80=99m certain no human being was ever involved at=
 any point in its authorship. Furthermore, some ethereal force abdicated the=
 editing and indexing tasks to another computer with serious malware issues a=
nd run by some sort of AI that originated in a galaxy never visited by the S=
tarship Enterprise.=20
The car is faultless and superbly put together, but each time we go out it=E2=
=80=99s a true Voyage of Discovery. Only yesterday did I find how to wash th=
e rear window from the driving seat :)

Jonmac


> On 4 Nov 2024, at 23:45, dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:
>=20
> I am 70 and in IT.  People always say that the young folk know all about c=
omputers and technology.  They don't.   I run circles around them and am con=
stantly amazed at how little they really know
>=20
>=20
> -------- Original message --------
> From: John Macartney <johnbmacartney@gmx.com>
> Date: 11/4/24 4:17 PM (GMT-06:00)
> To: keithstewart@bell.net
> Cc: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>, triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] Re Facebook
>=20
> Hi, Keith,
>=20
> An interesting query appropriate to the day. Only this afternoon, I was dr=
iving two grandsons (in teens) and with a same age friend home from school. O=
n the way and stuck in traffic, I was asked if I thought smartphone technolo=
gy was advantageous to my lifestyle. I said it wasn=E2=80=99t, explaining I o=
nly use my phone to make and receive the occasional call or to send/receive t=
he even more occasional text. I don=E2=80=99t use it for anything else and w=
hen using my mobility scooter in populated areas I tend to not avoid those w=
ho can=E2=80=99t walk anywhere unless they=E2=80=99re glued to a handheld sc=
reen and oblivious to everything surrounding them. So I just drive at them b=
ecause the scooter has outstanding brakes. Twenty plus years ago, I refused t=
o allow my company provided car to be fitted with a car phone because drivin=
g in this overcrowded island then demanded total attention at all times. It=E2=
=80=99s even worse now. My boss and his boss were of the same view so I was =E2=
=80=98protected=E2=80=99 from those who held divergent opinions. Some years l=
ater, i had a colleague who never answered his employer provided smartphone i=
f he was driving and would throw it out of the window whenever it rang. He g=
ot through a lot of phones in the course of a year until it was decided to g=
ive him a telephone credit card instead.
> But I=E2=80=99m not totally resistant to technology and spend a lot of tim=
e writing on my laptop. In fact, I=E2=80=99ve got my second Life at Triumph b=
ook almost ready for publication but I just can=E2=80=99t get my head around=
 the technology provided by Amazon and Kindle. Each time I try, everything g=
oes =E2=80=9Ctits up=E2=80=9D and I manage to blow a memory somewhere.
>  Perhaps little Poppy, my three year old grand-daughter could help there? M=
ost kids of almost any age have forgotten more than I=E2=80=99ve ever learne=
d on the cyber tech front so maybe I=E2=80=99ll ask Poppy for her help?
>=20
> Cheers, John
>=20
> > On 4 Nov 2024, at 20:49, <keithstewart@bell.net> <keithstewart@bell.net>=
 wrote:
> >=20
> > I am shocked John. When dd you become clunky and boring? Did you use OEM=
 parts/enhancements, or were they aftermarket? Were the changes you made rev=
ersible, or have you permanently made the adjustment?
> >=20
> > Cheers
> > Keith
> >=20
> > Keith Stewart
> > keithstewart@bell.net
> > https://keith-stewart.ca/
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Macartney <johnbmacartney@gmx.com>=20
> > Sent: November 3, 2024 4:51 PM
> > To: dave@ranteer.com
> > Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
> > Subject: [TR] Re Facebook
> >=20
> > For reasons unknown to me, BookFace closed my account without saying why=
. To be honest I read so many posts on it covering a plethora of subjects - t=
he majority of which were unsolicited and I=E2=80=99m now SO glad to be rid o=
f the damned thing and I certainly won=E2=80=99t be going there again. This l=
ist may not be as heavily trafficked as it was 20 plus years ago but I still=
 prefer it to other web based alternatives that are clunky to navigate and g=
enerally rather boring.
> > But I guess I=E2=80=99ve reached an age where I=E2=80=99m likely to othe=
rs to be clunky and boring so it evens out all round for everyone.
> >=20
> > Heigh-ho
> >=20
> > Jonmac
> >=20
> >=20
>=20

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utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Perhaps I should send Dave N a copy of the handbook f=
or my Kia Sorento to kindly unravel for me? I=E2=80=99m certain no human bei=
ng was ever involved at any point in its authorship. Furthermore, some ether=
eal force abdicated the editing and indexing tasks to another computer with s=
erious malware issues and run by some sort of AI that originated in a galaxy=
 never visited by the Starship Enterprise.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr">The c=
ar is faultless and superbly put together, but each time we go out it=E2=80=99=
s a true Voyage of Discovery. Only yesterday did I find how to wash the rear=
 window from the driving seat :)</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">Jonmac</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On 4 Nov 2=
024, at 23:45, dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com";>dave@ra=
nteer.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"=
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<div dir=3D"auto">I am 70 and in IT.&nbsp; People always say that the young f=
olk know all about computers and technology.&nbsp; They don't.&nbsp; &nbsp;I=
 run circles around them and am constantly amazed at how little they really k=
now
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>-------- Original message --------</div>
<div>From: John Macartney &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:johnbmacartney@gmx.com";>john=
bmacartney@gmx.com</a>&gt; </div>
<div>Date: 11/4/24 4:17 PM (GMT-06:00) </div>
<div>To: <a href=3D"mailto:keithstewart@bell.net";>keithstewart@bell.net</a> <=
/div>
<div>Cc: dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com";>dave@ranteer.=
com</a>&gt;, <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.=
net</a> </div>
<div>Subject: Re: [TR] Re Facebook </div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
<font size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;">
<div class=3D"PlainText">Hi, Keith,<br>
<br>
An interesting query appropriate to the day. Only this afternoon, I was driv=
ing two grandsons (in teens) and with a same age friend home from school. On=
 the way and stuck in traffic, I was asked if I thought smartphone technolog=
y was advantageous to my lifestyle.
 I said it wasn=E2=80=99t, explaining I only use my phone to make and receiv=
e the occasional call or to send/receive the even more occasional text. I do=
n=E2=80=99t use it for anything else and when using my mobility scooter in p=
opulated areas I tend to not avoid those who
 can=E2=80=99t walk anywhere unless they=E2=80=99re glued to a handheld scre=
en and oblivious to everything surrounding them. So I just drive at them bec=
ause the scooter has outstanding brakes. Twenty plus years ago, I refused to=
 allow my company provided car to be fitted with
 a car phone because driving in this overcrowded island then demanded total a=
ttention at all times. It=E2=80=99s even worse now. My boss and his boss wer=
e of the same view so I was =E2=80=98protected=E2=80=99 from those who held d=
ivergent opinions. Some years later, i had a colleague
 who never answered his employer provided smartphone if he was driving and w=
ould throw it out of the window whenever it rang. He got through a lot of ph=
ones in the course of a year until it was decided to give him a telephone cr=
edit card instead.<br>
But I=E2=80=99m not totally resistant to technology and spend a lot of time w=
riting on my laptop. In fact, I=E2=80=99ve got my second Life at Triumph boo=
k almost ready for publication but I just can=E2=80=99t get my head around t=
he technology provided by Amazon and Kindle. Each time
 I try, everything goes =E2=80=9Ctits up=E2=80=9D and I manage to blow a mem=
ory somewhere.<br>
&nbsp;Perhaps little Poppy, my three year old grand-daughter could help ther=
e? Most kids of almost any age have forgotten more than I=E2=80=99ve ever le=
arned on the cyber tech front so maybe I=E2=80=99ll ask Poppy for her help?<=
br>
<br>
Cheers, John<br>
<br>
&gt; On 4 Nov 2024, at 20:49, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:keithstewart@bell.net";>k=
eithstewart@bell.net</a>&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:keithstewart@bell.net";>ke=
ithstewart@bell.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I am shocked John. When dd you become clunky and boring? Did you use OE=
M parts/enhancements, or were they aftermarket? Were the changes you made re=
versible, or have you permanently made the adjustment?<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Cheers<br>
&gt; Keith<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Keith Stewart<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"mailto:keithstewart@bell.net";>keithstewart@bell.net</a><br>
&gt; <a href=3D"https://keith-stewart.ca/";>https://keith-stewart.ca/</a><br>=

&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; From: John Macartney &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:johnbmacartney@gmx.com";>john=
bmacartney@gmx.com</a>&gt; <br>
&gt; Sent: November 3, 2024 4:51 PM<br>
&gt; To: <a href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com";>dave@ranteer.com</a><br>
&gt; Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net<=
/a><br>
&gt; Subject: [TR] Re Facebook<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; For reasons unknown to me, BookFace closed my account without saying wh=
y. To be honest I read so many posts on it covering a plethora of subjects -=
 the majority of which were unsolicited and I=E2=80=99m now SO glad to be ri=
d of the damned thing and I certainly won=E2=80=99t
 be going there again. This list may not be as heavily trafficked as it was 2=
0 plus years ago but I still prefer it to other web based alternatives that a=
re clunky to navigate and generally rather boring.<br>
&gt; But I guess I=E2=80=99ve reached an age where I=E2=80=99m likely to oth=
ers to be clunky and boring so it evens out all round for everyone.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Heigh-ho<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Jonmac<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
<br>
</div>
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