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Thanks, Carl.
Follow-up to my follow-up: after scraping the built-up paint off from the o=
ld rack, I found a nylon button in that hole. Popped it out, into the new r=
ack, rack onto the car, off to the alignment shop in the morning.
Life=92s good again.
Cliff
Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986> for Window=
s
Sent: Monday, August 9, 2021 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 steering rack hole
Hi Cliff,
I don't see your photo. The little hole is for a nylon button (anti-rattle)=
.
I believe it was a factory upgrade to stop an annoying rattle when a rack t=
ube bushing gets worn and was developed/introduced somewhere during TR4-TR4=
A production.
Some years ago I dug through about 20 used racks at Triumph$Only and found =
a few TR4/4A racks with that very nylon button. Basically, it rides atop th=
e rack bar and is flush with top side of rack tube. The original-style rubb=
er mount provides some pressure to that nylon button. Seems like a real goo=
d idea to me. Nylon nub about the size of a pencil eraser - a little smalle=
r.
I am sure you could fashion a nub of nylon to suit the purpose - doubt they=
are sold anywhere (maybe TRF) ..
I am going for comfortable steering so am using the original-style rubber r=
ack mounts and nylon nub. Solid mounts may cause too much pressure on a nyl=
on nub and probably cause accelerated wear to your tube bushing. Maybe just=
applying some silicone lightly under a solid mount would seal the area aro=
und the hole good enough.
Good luck with your project!
Regards,
Carl
'63TR4 since '74
I have a new steering rack (original is judged not rebuildable due to wear =
on the rack gear teeth). On the passenger side, on top of the tube, there i=
s the hole shown in the attached photo.
Should there should be a plug of some sort? In the original that hole is fi=
lled by a rubber button from the inside, perhaps as part of a bushing of so=
me sort. The hole will be under the mount, I intend to use a solid rack mou=
nt so I can?t rely on the mount bushing to seal against water.
I will call the vendor tomorrow, I thought I?d ask this group also. I?d ins=
tall it today if I had confidence that all is as it should be.
Thanks
Cliff
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks, Carl.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Follow-up to my follow-up: after scraping the built-=
up paint off from the old rack, I found a nylon button in that hole. Popped=
it out, into the new rack, rack onto the car, off to the alignment shop in=
the morning.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Life=92s good again.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cliff</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent from <a href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink=
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Mail</a> for Windows</p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"border:none;padding:0in"><b>From: </b><a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:carlsereda@aol.com";>Carl Sereda</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Monday, August 9, 2021 5:06 PM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.n=
et</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [TR] TR4 steering rack hole</p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:black">Hi Cliff,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:black">I don't see your photo. The little hole i=
s for a nylon button (anti-rattle).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:black">I believe it was a factory upgrade to sto=
p an annoying rattle when a rack tube bushing gets worn and was developed/i=
ntroduced somewhere during TR4-TR4A production.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:black">Some years ago I dug through about 20 use=
d racks at Triumph$Only and found a few TR4/4A racks with that very nylon b=
utton. Basically, it rides atop the rack bar and
is flush with top side of rack tube. The original-style rubber mount provi=
des some pressure to that nylon button. Seems like a real good idea to me. =
Nylon nub about the size of a pencil eraser - a little smaller.<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:black">I am sure you could fashion a nub of nylo=
n to suit the purpose - doubt they are sold anywhere (maybe TRF) ..<o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:black">I am going for comfortable steering so am=
using the original-style rubber rack mounts and nylon nub. Solid mounts ma=
y cause too much pressure on a nylon nub and probably
cause accelerated wear to your tube bushing. Maybe just applying some sili=
cone lightly under a solid mount would seal the area around the hole good e=
nough.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:black">Good luck with your project!<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:black">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:black">Carl<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:black">'63TR4 since '74<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"He=
lvetica",sans-serif;color:black">I have a new steering rack (original =
is judged not rebuildable due to wear on the rack gear teeth). On the passe=
nger side, on top of the tube, there is the hole
shown in the attached photo.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"He=
lvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"He=
lvetica",sans-serif;color:black">Should there should be a plug of some=
sort? In the original that hole is filled by a rubber button from the insi=
de, perhaps as part of a bushing of some sort.
The hole will be under the mount, I intend to use a solid rack mount so I =
can?t rely on the mount bushing to seal against water.<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"He=
lvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"He=
lvetica",sans-serif;color:black">I will call the vendor tomorrow, I th=
ought I?d ask this group also. I?d install it today if I had confidence tha=
t all is as it should be.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"He=
lvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"He=
lvetica",sans-serif;color:black">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"He=
lvetica",sans-serif;color:black">Cliff<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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