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Many many moons ago, the oil pump shaft broke rendering the engine useless.
Decided to get a tow dolly and pull it 500 miles to home. That was in 1972.
The tranny still functioned perfectly 40 years later before being replaced
by a HVDA toyota. So there's two issues here; is flat towing really a
problem? and .... can a Toyota conversion be flat towed?
Johnnie
On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 9:46 PM Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com> wrote:
> That's a great demo. My son asked me how a gearbox worked and I told him
> why didnt he ask me a few months earlier. I had a Triumph Stag box apart
> and just pit back the top cover
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 11:12 AM <jpaynepbr@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> That is really cool. Good show!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Dean
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 23, 2020 10:44 AM
>> *To:* Mark J Bradakis <mark@bradakis.com>; triumphs@autox.team.net
>> *Subject:* Re: [TR] Flat Towing a TR6
>>
>>
>>
>> I built a cut away transmission to show people how a transmission works
>> and always showed them how the oil level was below
>>
>> The main gears and if they don=E2=80=99t turn they don=E2=80=99t bring u=
p the oil.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dean Tetterton
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The black line shows the oil level. By turning the output flange you can
>> see gears sitting still and not pulling up the oil.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> By turning the knob on the clutch disc you can operate the gears.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> You can also shift all the gears while it is turning.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986> for
>> Windows 10
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>>
>>
>> *From: *Mark J Bradakis <mark@bradakis.com>
>> *Sent: *Monday, November 23, 2020 11:40 AM
>> *To: *triumphs@autox.team.net
>> *Subject: *Re: [TR] Flat Towing a TR6
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/22/20 7:50 PM, dave wrote:
>>
>> > But if you are flat towing the car, the transmission gears are moving.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Actually the gears are NOT moving. Just the mainshaft is turning, in
>>
>> unlubricated bearings and syncro bushings.
>>
>>
>>
>> mjb.
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Man=
y many moons ago, the oil pump shaft broke rendering the engine useless. De=
cided to get a tow dolly and pull it 500 miles to home. That was in 1972. T=
he tranny still functioned perfectly 40 years later before being replaced b=
y a HVDA toyota. So there's two issues here; is flat towing really a pr=
oblem?=C2=A0 =C2=A0and .... can a Toyota conversion be flat towed?</div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D=
"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Johnnie</div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Nov 23, 2020=
at 9:46 PM Sujit Roy <<a href=3D"mailto:triumphstag@gmail.com";>triumphs=
tag@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddi=
ng-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">That's a great demo. My son asked me how=
a gearbox worked and I told him why didnt he ask me a few months earlier.=
=C2=A0 I had a Triumph Stag box apart and just pit back the top cover</div>=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon=
, Nov 23, 2020, 11:12 AM <<a href=3D"mailto:jpaynepbr@cox.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">jpaynepbr@cox.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(20=
4,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"overflow-wrap: br=
eak-word;"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">That is really cool.=C2=A0 Good show=
!<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div style=3D"border-right:none=
;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);=
padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Triumphs <<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"=
_blank">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dean<br=
><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 23, 2020 10:44 AM<br><b>To:</b> Mark J Brada=
kis <<a href=3D"mailto:mark@bradakis.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_=
blank">mark@bradakis.com</a>>; <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net=
" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Su=
bject:</b> Re: [TR] Flat Towing a TR6<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I built a cut=
away transmission to show people how a transmission works =C2=A0and always=
showed them how the oil level was below <u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal">The main gears and if they don=E2=80=99t turn they don=E2=80=99t bri=
ng up the oil.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dean Tetterton<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u><=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><img width=3D"793" height=3D"531" style=3D"width:=
8.2604in; height: 5.5312in;" id=3D"gmail-m_-8006370898837237141m_-70739974=
23245416296Picture_x0020_3"><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">The bl=
ack line shows the oil level. By turning the output flange you can see gear=
s sitting still and not pulling up the oil.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><img width=3D"793" height=3D"531" style=3D"widt=
h: 8.2604in; height: 5.5312in;" id=3D"gmail-m_-8006370898837237141m_-707399=
7423245416296Picture_x0020_4"><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">By t=
urning the knob on the clutch disc you can operate the gears.<u></u><u></u>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><img width=3D"793" height=3D"=
531" style=3D"width: 8.2604in; height: 5.5312in;" id=3D"gmail-m_-8006370898=
837237141m_-7073997423245416296Picture_x0020_5"><u></u><u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">You can also shift all the gears while it is turning. <u></u=
><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal">Sent from <a href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D55098=
6" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">Mail</a> for Windows 10<u></u><u></=
u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div style=3D"border-r=
ight:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,=
225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From: </b><a href=
=3D"mailto:mark@bradakis.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">Mark J B=
radakis</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, November 23, 2020 11:40 AM<br><b>To: </=
b><a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_=
blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [TR] Flat Towing =
a TR6<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 11/22/20 7:50 PM, dave wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal">> But if you are flat towing the car, the transmis=
sion gears are moving.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal">Actually the gears are NOT moving.=C2=A0 Just the mainshaft is tur=
ning, in <u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">unlubricated bearings and=
syncro bushings.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u><=
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