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Alfa used a Lucas distributor with clockwise rotation..

On 4/18/2021 12:49 PM, Greg Lemon wrote:
> I have a Lucas catalog from the early 70s, they have starters, 
> alternators etc. listed for Japanese, German, etc., cars in addition 
> to British.  Strange to me to think of a Toyota with a Lucas 
> alternator or whatever, I don't remember Lucas parts being sourced 
> that much for non-British cars, but really don't know or remember.
>
> Greg Lemon
> TR250
>
> On Sun, Apr 18, 2021, 1:38 PM John Macartney 
> wrote:
>
>     Wouldnâ??t disagree with your assessment Ed. The familiar Lucas
>     trademark is now owned by another company and the contents in
>     those modern boxes are far from dependable. Mostly mucho cheapo
>     from China or Taiwan. Donâ??t know if the Intermotor brand is known
>     in the US but I used their stuff for years on my Triumphs and
>     never had issues. Maybe I was just lucky but I worked with
>     Intermotor for years marketing a lot of their stuff overseas when
>     I worked for Hardy Spicer Driveline and we had very few problems.
>     Theyâ??re not necessarily the cheapest around but I never bought
>     purely on price for business or personal use.
>
>     Jonmac
>
>     Vote for Guy Fawkes! The only man who entered Parliament with
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>
>     On 18 Apr 2021, at 16:16, EDWARD WOODS <fogbro1@comcast.net
>
>>     â??Lucasâ?? parts in green boxes are Lucas in name only. AFAIK, They
>>     have nothing to do with the original Lucas parts that were in our
>>     Triumphs back in the day. Those Lucas parts were as good or
>>     better than any of the other electrical suppliers of their time.
>>     Ed Woods
>>>     On 04/17/2021 3:24 PM Jim Henningsen <trguy75@gmail.com
>>>     List,
>>>     Thank you all for your recommendations.  I got my spare parts
>>>     and tools together and started with replacing the rotor. It was
>>>     new but the riveted type and I know those are problematic.  Put
>>>     my spare red rotor in and voila, a fine running 59 TR3A.  I
>>>     spent more time getting my spares together than the time it took
>>>     to switch the rotor.  How do they still sell Lucas logo black
>>>     riveted rotors.  Should be a law against those.  So appreciative
>>>     of everyoneâ??s help.
>>>     Attached pic of the happy owner with his new car. It came from a
>>>     Morgan dealer in Illinois.  They sold it on consignment. Stated
>>>     that is was restored about 13 years ago. After inspecting, I
>>>     concur, it was done by someone who knows Triumphs.  Lots of
>>>     correct details and parts.
>>>     Cheers,
>>>     Jim Henningsen
>>>     Ocala fl
>>>
>>>>     On Apr 16, 2021, at 5:43 PM, staffel <staffel@comcast.net
>>>>
>>>>     Hi Jim! Lucas rotors known to crack, Thus grounding spark
>>>>     Had this happen on TR4 & On friend's 6 cyl Jags with points. Of
>>>>     course both times club drives > hundred miles from home. Had to
>>>>     leave cars, get a simple rotor.
>>>>      SInce then Always carry spare rotors for me & others.
>>>>     When no spark on Lucas's Ignition, 1st thing I do is swap to
>>>>     another rotor. Then follow normal diagnostics.
>>>>     I'm running a Malory dual point since 1999. Rotor quality never
>>>>     been an issue
>>>>     Sherman
>>>>     65TR4
>>>>     4 Jags72-96
>>>>     5 Jensens
>>>>     ColumbiaMD.
>>>>     Sent via the Samsung Galaxy Tab A, an AT&T 4G LTE tablet
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    <p>Alfa used a Lucas distributor with clockwise rotation..<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/18/2021 12:49 PM, Greg Lemon
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CAFtw3aZm+bgYXHR9F7dLY=VLua31RoaYCCxNv6G_hxqU57y=cA@mail.gmail.com">
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      <div dir="auto">I have a Lucas catalog from the early 70s, they
        have starters, alternators etc. listed for Japanese, German,
        etc., cars in addition to British.  Strange to me to think of a
        Toyota with a Lucas alternator or whatever, I don't remember
        Lucas parts being sourced that much for non-British cars, but
        really don't know or remember.
        <div dir="auto"><br>
        </div>
        <div dir="auto">Greg Lemon</div>
        <div dir="auto">TR250</div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">
        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Apr 18, 2021, 1:38 PM
          John Macartney &lt;<a
            href="mailto:John.Macartney@ukpips.org.uk";
            moz-do-not-send="true">John.Macartney@ukpips.org.uk</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
          .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
          <div dir="auto">Wouldnâ??t disagree with your assessment Ed. The
            familiar Lucas trademark is now owned by another company and
            the contents in those modern boxes are far from dependable.
            Mostly mucho cheapo from China or Taiwan. Donâ??t know if the
            Intermotor brand is known in the US but I used their stuff
            for years on my Triumphs and never had issues. Maybe I was
            just lucky but I worked with Intermotor for years marketing
            a lot of their stuff overseas when I worked for Hardy Spicer
            Driveline and we had very few problems. Theyâ??re not
            necessarily the cheapest around but I never bought purely on
            price for business or personal use.
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Jonmac<br>
              <br>
              <div id="m_1497278141302652520AppleMailSignature"
                dir="ltr">Vote for Guy Fawkes! The only man who entered
                Parliament with honest intentions.</div>
              <div dir="ltr"><br>
                On 18 Apr 2021, at 16:16, EDWARD WOODS &lt;<a
                  href="mailto:fogbro1@comcast.net"; target="_blank"
                  rel="noreferrer" 
moz-do-not-send="true">fogbro1@comcast.net</a>&gt;
                wrote:<br>
                <br>
              </div>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <div dir="ltr">
                  <div
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:#333333">
                    <span 
style="font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">â??Lucasâ??
                      parts in green boxes are Lucas in name only.
                      AFAIK, They have nothing to do with the original
                      Lucas parts that were in our Triumphs back in the
                      day. Those Lucas parts were as good or better than
                      any of the other electrical suppliers of their
                      time. </span> </div>
                  <div
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:#333333">
                      </div>
                  <div
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:#333333">
                    <span style="font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">Ed
                      Woods</span> </div>
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <div> On 04/17/2021 3:24 PM Jim Henningsen &lt;<a
                        href="mailto:trguy75@gmail.com"; target="_blank"
                        rel="noreferrer" 
moz-do-not-send="true">trguy75@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                      wrote: </div>
                    <div>   </div>
                    <div>   </div>
                    <div dir="ltr">
                      <div dir="ltr"> List, </div>
                      <div dir="ltr"> Thank you all for your
                        recommendations.  I got my spare parts and tools
                        together and started with replacing the rotor. 
                        It was new but the riveted type and I know those
                        are problematic.  Put my spare red rotor in and
                        voila, a fine running 59 TR3A.  I spent more
                        time getting my spares together than the time it
                        took to switch the rotor.  How do they still
                        sell Lucas logo black riveted rotors.  Should be
                        a law against those.  So appreciative of
                        everyoneâ??s help. </div>
                      <div dir="ltr"> Attached pic of the happy owner
                        with his new car. It came from a Morgan dealer
                        in Illinois.  They sold it on consignment. 
                        Stated that is was restored about 13 years ago. 
                        After inspecting, I concur, it was done by
                        someone who knows Triumphs.  Lots of correct
                        details and parts.   </div>
                      <div dir="ltr"> Cheers, </div>
                      <div dir="ltr"> Jim Henningsen  </div>
                      <div dir="ltr"> Ocala fl  </div>
                      <div dir="ltr">   </div>
                      <div dir="ltr"> <img
                          src="cid:5C5CF313-173E-4F1A-9482-0F8DC46A0188-L0-001"
                          moz-do-not-send="true"> </div>
                      <div dir="ltr">   </div>
                      <div dir="ltr"> <br>
                        <blockquote type="cite"> On Apr 16, 2021, at
                          5:43 PM, staffel &lt;<a
                            href="mailto:staffel@comcast.net";
                            target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">staffel@comcast.net</a>&gt;
                          wrote: <br>
                          <br>
                        </blockquote>
                      </div>
                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <div dir="ltr">
                          <div dir="auto">   </div>
                          <div dir="auto"> <span
                              style="font-family:sans-serif">Hi Jim!
                              Lucas rotors known to crack, Thus
                              grounding spark </span> </div>
                          <div dir="auto"> <span
                              style="font-family:sans-serif">Had this
                              happen on TR4 &amp; On friend's 6 cyl Jags
                              with points. Of course both times club
                              drives &gt; hundred miles from home. Had
                              to leave cars, get a simple rotor.</span>
                          </div>
                          <div dir="auto"> <span
                              style="font-family:sans-serif"> SInce
                              then </span>Always carry spare rotors for
                            me &amp; others. </div>
                          <div dir="auto">   </div>
                          <div dir="auto"> When no spark on Lucas's
                            Ignition, 1st thing I do is swap to another
                            rotor. Then follow normal diagnostics. </div>
                          <div dir="auto">   </div>
                          <div dir="auto"> I'm running a Malory dual
                            point since 1999. Rotor quality never been
                            an issue  </div>
                          <div dir="auto">   </div>
                          <div dir="auto"> Sherman </div>
                          <div dir="auto"> 65TR4 </div>
                          <div dir="auto"> 4 Jags72-96 </div>
                          <div dir="auto"> 5 Jensens </div>
                          <div dir="auto">   </div>
                          <div dir="auto"> ColumbiaMD. </div>
                          <div dir="auto">   </div>
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