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To: <ptegler@verizon.net>, <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Ford Fiesta Bosch Alternator - was Headlight round Connection note @2
From: "Bill Brewer" <billbrewer59@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2021 07:53:22 -0800
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     While all of these say Bosch, will they fit a TR engine? The ones I 
checked all said for Mercedes Benz. If you search Ebay for a 1980 Ford Fiesta 
alternator, essentially all of them are different from the original Bosch That 
I have used in the past. They may or may not fit. You can make anything fit. I 
have even seen Kubota alternators on TR's, but wouldn't do that myself. The 
original Ford Fiesta Bosch just bolted right in and everything matched.
     I recently tried fitting a GM 10si alternator into my Standard Vanguard 
powered Morgan (essentially the same block as a TR) and the alternator wouldn't 
fit. It was similar to the last GM alternator I used, but there were 
interferences.

     -Bill Brewer


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Tegler [mailto:ptegler@verizon.net] 
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2021 7:10 AM
To: Bill Brewer; triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Ford Fiesta Bosch Alternator - was Headlight round Connection note 
@2

even better,,,Even on ebay and advancedauto

plenty around at under $100

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<https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&ei=T-snYN71ArTk5NoPsYiz-AE&q=1978+Fiesta+Alternator&oq=1978+Fiesta+Alternator&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBwgAEEcQsAMyBwgAEEcQsAMyBwgAEEcQsAMyBwgAEEcQsANQ5dACWOXQAmDq1AJoA3ABeACAAUWIAX6SAQEymAEAoAEBqgEHZ3dzLXdpesgBBMABAQ&sclient=gws-wiz&ved=0ahUKEwie2ZvykefuAhU0MlkFHTHEDB8Q4dUDCAw&uact=5>

ptegler

On 2/13/2021 9:44 AM, Bill Brewer wrote:
>       Good luck finding a Ford Fiesta alternator. I bought one about 10 years 
> ago for a TR6 and they were everywhere and cheap. About a year ago I wanted 
> one for a Morgan and they were nowhere to be found. I found some originals in 
> France on Ebay, but they were not rebuilt or anything and they wanted over 
> $300 + shipping. The other ones I found were always Remy "Bosch replacement", 
> Motorcraft or "Fits" Fiesta alternator and they weren't even close to what I 
> was looking for.
>       Does anyone have a source for the original Fiesta Bosch alternator? I 
> think that I got my last one from RockAuto and they don't have them now.
>       
> https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,1980,fiesta,1.6l+98cid+l4,1128293,electrical,alternator+/+generator,2412
>       I ended up using a Dyno-alt from British Parts Northwest and have been 
> happy. Looking like a generator but is an alternator. Looks great in the 
> Morgan.
>       
> https://www.bpnorthwest.com/triumph/tr2-tr3-tr4-tr4a/engine-electrical/charging-system/alternator-generator-new-tr2-to-tr4a.html
>       But they are out of stock at the present...
>
>       -Bill Brewer
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Tegler [mailto:ptegler@verizon.net]
> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 7:42 PM
> To: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] Headlight round Connection
>
> a typical 55W high beam headlamp =    55W / 13.5V = 4.07 Amps x2 = 8.14
> amps for both lights (give or take....)
>
> Your stock alt should be fine while driving. BUT  The typical Lucas 26
> amp alternator though, is notorious for dropping out of regulation at an
> idle which does pull more current (55W / 12V = 4.5A. )
>
> Unless your stuck on being super' original'...find a Bosch alt
> replacement. ('78 fiesta?) The stock Lucas connector will plug right in.
>
> jfft
>
> ptegler
>
> On 2/11/2021 10:20 PM, WILLIAM SMITH wrote:
>> Thanks to everyone who responded with possible answers and
>> recommendations.  As usual, I believe Dave Massey was spot-on with the
>> '72 headlight ground connection being a push-on connector attached to
>> the inner side of the front valance.  As my car is not back yet from
>> the body shop (long story/TMI), I can't actually test that connection
>> until I get it back.  However, I do have the original valance and
>> spotted the tab for the connector after Dave mentioned it in his reply
>> --- thanks Dave!   If cleaning that ground connection doesn't brighten
>> the lights, I'll have to probe further.
>>
>> As for those who suggested the headlight relay kit, I've been toying
>> with that idea for a while, so thanks for reminding me.  As the
>> original headlights were never bright enough, I was thinking of doing
>> the relay with a set of halogen sealed beams. Oh, and that would
>> probably call for an alternator upgrade, as well.  It never endsð???
>>
>> Bill Smith
>>
>> '72 TR6
>>
>> '80 TR7
>>
>>
-- 
Paul Tegler
ptegler@verizon.net  www.teglerizer.com


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