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Just a bit of a side topic, a few years ago I bought the Solar brand of =
battery tester. You can leave the battery in the car and hooked up to =
test, or not. It doesn=E2=80=99t need to be fully charged when testing =
either.
=
https://www.amazon.com/BA9-40-1200-Digital-Battery-System/dp/B00IZFNJ6Y/re=
f=3Dsr_1_5?dchild=3D1&keywords=3D12+volt+battery+tester+automotive+solar&q=
id=3D1609278461&sr=3D8-5 =
<https://www.amazon.com/BA9-40-1200-Digital-Battery-System/dp/B00IZFNJ6Y/r=
ef=3Dsr_1_5?dchild=3D1&keywords=3D12+volt+battery+tester+automotive+solar&=
qid=3D1609278461&sr=3D8-5>
This came to mind when Dave was talking about CCAs. I=E2=80=99ve had a =
red top Optima in my TR3 for maybe 5-6 years now. I was testing a deep =
cycle battery at the time, and decided to check other batteries in other =
vehicles, including the Optima in the Triumph. As Dave said, it=E2=80=99s=
rated at 720CCA. Being several years old, and I=E2=80=99ve heard that =
about 5 years is the typical life of a car battery, my expectation was =
low. I was very pleasantly surprised that it was still at 650CCAs, with =
a green light on the battery tester that this battery is good!
It=E2=80=99s a nifty tool for testing batteries.
Rye
> On Dec 29, 2020, at 11:23 AM, David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> Interesting about the highly-rated Odyssey battery: It's only rated =
for 330CCA, whereas the Optima redtop is rated at 720CCA... I thought =
these two models were AGM "competitors"....
>=20
> Dave
>=20
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 1:53 PM Carl Hanson via NET =
> Gotta be careful about charging those AGM batteries. I made a mistake =
and used my usual charger on an Optima and it totally discharged. Had to =
follow a special method to get it recharged, but finally got it back to =
full. However, since then it does not hold a charge for more than a =
week. Bummer.
>=20
> Carl Hanson
> Former TR6 owner.
>=20
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Barnard via NET <net@newenglandtriumphs.org =
> Cc: TR3 Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net =
> Sent: Sat, Dec 26, 2020 10:56 am
> Subject: Re: [NET] Battery charging
>=20
> I too have heard good things about the Interstate battery. =
However, the fluorescent green case does not agree with my engine bay =
color scheme. ;-)
> My last DieHard only lived 2 or 3 years. To be fair, it was =
left on the basement workbench most of the winter, idle, as the trickle =
charger plug had popped out of the wall receptacle. Also, I discovered =
that my alternator was weak.
> I bought another Diehard. We=E2=80=99ll see how it goes.
> Too bad about Sears. I kinda miss the days of going to the mall =
and wandering through the tool department while the family shopped for =
clothes or whatever. Last time I went, the place was deserted. I =
bought a Craftsman screwdriver. A few weeks later I put it to the test =
removing a rusted screw, and the tip of the screwdriver itself twisted. =
Damn! I could take it back, but who wants another one?
> In my town (Grafton, MA) there are at least three houses that =
were purchased as kits from Sears & Roebuck, years ago. They are solid =
and quite charming.
>=20
> My $.02
> _Rick B.
> 1973 TR6
>=20
>> On Dec 26, 2020, at 9:07 AM, bruce pierce via NET =
>>=20
>=20
> I have been in the Automotive Repair Industry in one way or another =
for most of my adult life and have installed Many different types of =
batteries.I have Always liked Interstate Batteries for durability and =
longevity over the "other" brands.
> It mostly comes down to the convenience of where you are going to =
purchase it because most people are not going to drive 50 miles when =
there other choices closer.
> My 2 cents
> Bruce and the Flivver=20
> From: NET <net-bounces@newenglandtriumphs.org =
> Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 8:06 AM
> To: New England Triumphs <net@newenglandtriumphs.org =
> Subject: Re: [NET] Battery charging
> =20
> I believe the Optima is an AGM (absorbed glass Mat) battery and quite =
different than the lead acid Die Hard. They are among other things far =
less prone to loss of charge from sitting idle. You situation makes =
perfect sense.
> Tom
>=20
> From: NET <net-bounces@newenglandtriumphs.org =
Friedlander via NET <net@newenglandtriumphs.org =
> Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 3:17 PM
> To: New England Triumphs <net@newenglandtriumphs.org =
> Subject: [NET] Battery charging
> =20
> Hey all ~ Merry Christmas ...!
>=20
> I have one float charger that serves both my TR3 that has an Optima =
red top battery and my TR6 that has a Sears Die Hard. Seems like even =
though each battery is only 2 -3 years old, the Die Hard seems to need =
more frequent =E2=80=9Ctopping up=E2=80=9D than the Optima.... =
Interesting....
>=20
> Dave
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Just =
a bit of a side topic, a few years ago I bought the Solar brand of =
battery tester. You can leave the battery in the car and hooked up =
to test, or not. It doesn=E2=80=99t need to be fully charged when =
testing either.<div class=3D""><a =
href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/BA9-40-1200-Digital-Battery-System/dp/B00IZ=
FNJ6Y/ref=3Dsr_1_5?dchild=3D1&keywords=3D12+volt+battery+tester+automo=
tive+solar&qid=3D1609278461&sr=3D8-5" =
class=3D"">https://www.amazon.com/BA9-40-1200-Digital-Battery-System/dp/B0=
0IZFNJ6Y/ref=3Dsr_1_5?dchild=3D1&keywords=3D12+volt+battery+tester+aut=
omotive+solar&qid=3D1609278461&sr=3D8-5</a></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">This came to mind when =
Dave was talking about CCAs. I=E2=80=99ve had a red top Optima in =
my TR3 for maybe 5-6 years now. I was testing a deep cycle battery =
at the time, and decided to check other batteries in other vehicles, =
including the Optima in the Triumph. As Dave said, it=E2=80=99s =
rated at 720CCA. Being several years old, and I=E2=80=99ve heard =
that about 5 years is the typical life of a car battery, my expectation =
was low. I was very pleasantly surprised that it was still at 650CCAs, =
with a green light on the battery tester that this battery is =
good!</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">It=E2=80=99=
s a nifty tool for testing batteries.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Rye</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Dec =
29, 2020, at 11:23 AM, David Friedlander <<a =
href=3D"mailto:forzion7@gmail.com"; class=3D"">forzion7@gmail.com</a>> =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-family:comic sans =
ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">Interesting about the =
highly-rated Odyssey battery: It's only rated for 330CCA, whereas the =
Optima redtop is rated at 720CCA... I thought these two models were AGM =
"competitors"....</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-family:comic sans =
ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099"><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans =
ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">Dave</div></div><br =
class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 1:53 PM Carl Hanson via NET =
<<a href=3D"mailto:net@newenglandtriumphs.org"; =
class=3D"">net@newenglandtriumphs.org</a>> wrote:<br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 12pt; line-height: =
normal; font-family: "Times New Roman", Times, serif;" =
class=3D"">Gotta be careful about charging those AGM batteries. I made a =
mistake and used my usual charger on an Optima and it totally =
discharged. Had to follow a special method to get it recharged, but =
finally got it back to full. However, since then it does not hold a =
charge for more than a week. Bummer.
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div class=3D"">Carl Hanson</div>
<div class=3D"">Former TR6 owner.<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
<div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 10pt;" =
class=3D"">-----Original Message-----<br class=3D"">
From: Richard Barnard via NET <<a =
href=3D"mailto:net@newenglandtriumphs.org"; target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">net@newenglandtriumphs.org</a>><br class=3D"">
To: bruce pierce <<a href=3D"mailto:ag2dogs@hotmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">ag2dogs@hotmail.com</a>><br class=3D"">
Cc: TR3 Triumphs <<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>>; NET Member =
mailing list <<a href=3D"mailto:net@newenglandtriumphs.org"; =
target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">net@newenglandtriumphs.org</a>><br =
class=3D"">
Sent: Sat, Dec 26, 2020 10:56 am<br class=3D"">
Subject: Re: [NET] Battery charging<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
<div id=3D"gmail-m_1503535171074569627yiv0738254734" class=3D"">
<div class=3D""><span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap" class=3D""> =
</span>I too have heard good things about the Interstate battery. =
However, the fluorescent green case does not agree with my engine bay =
color scheme. ;-)<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">
<div class=3D""><span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap" class=3D""> =
</span>My last DieHard only lived 2 or 3 years. To be fair, it was =
left on the basement workbench most of the winter, idle, as the trickle =
charger plug had popped out of the wall receptacle. Also, I =
discovered that my alternator was weak.</div>
<div class=3D""><span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap" class=3D""> =
</span>I bought another Diehard. We=E2=80=99ll see how it =
goes.</div>
<div class=3D""><span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap" class=3D""> =
</span>Too bad about Sears. I kinda miss the days of going to the =
mall and wandering through the tool department while the family shopped =
for clothes or whatever. Last time I went, the place was =
deserted. I bought a Craftsman screwdriver. A few weeks =
later I put it to the test removing a rusted screw, and the tip of the =
screwdriver itself twisted. Damn! I could take it back, but =
who wants another one?</div>
<div class=3D""><span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap" class=3D""> =
</span>In my town (Grafton, MA) there are at least three houses that =
were purchased as kits from Sears & Roebuck, years ago. They =
are solid and quite charming.</div>
<div class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" class=3D""></div>
<div class=3D"">My $.02</div>
<div class=3D"">_Rick B.</div>
<div class=3D"">1973 TR6</div>
<div class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D"">
<div id=3D"gmail-m_1503535171074569627yiv0738254734yqtfd42686" class=3D"">=
<div class=3D"">On Dec 26, 2020, at 9:07 AM, bruce pierce via NET <<a =
rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" =
href=3D"mailto:net@newenglandtriumphs.org"; target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">net@newenglandtriumphs.org</a>> wrote:</div>
<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">
<div class=3D""></div>
</div>
</blockquote></div>
</div>
<div id=3D"gmail-m_1503535171074569627yiv0738254734yqtfd50133" class=3D"">=
<div class=3D"">
<div =
style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weigh=
t:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-s=
pace:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none" class=3D"">I have =
been in the Automotive Repair Industry in one way or another for most of =
my adult life and have installed Many different types of batteries.I =
have Always liked Interstate Batteries for durability and longevity over =
the "other" brands.</div>
<div =
style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weigh=
t:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-s=
pace:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none" class=3D"">It mostly =
comes down to the convenience of where you are going to purchase =
it because most people are not going to drive 50 miles when there other =
choices closer.</div>
<div =
style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weigh=
t:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-s=
pace:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none" class=3D"">My 2 =
cents</div>
<div =
style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weigh=
t:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-s=
pace:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none" class=3D"">Bruce and =
the Flivver </div>
<hr =
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t:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-s=
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th:983.906px" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weigh=
t:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-s=
pace:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inlin=
e" class=3D""></span>
<div dir=3D"ltr" =
id=3D"gmail-m_1503535171074569627yiv0738254734divRplyFwdMsg" =
style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weigh=
t:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-s=
pace:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none" class=3D""><font =
face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt" class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">From:</b><span class=3D""> </span>NET <<a =
rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" =
href=3D"mailto:net-bounces@newenglandtriumphs.org"; target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">net-bounces@newenglandtriumphs.org</a>> on behalf of Tom =
Mulligan via NET <<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" =
shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:net@newenglandtriumphs.org"; =
target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">net@newenglandtriumphs.org</a>><br =
clear=3D"none" class=3D""><b class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D""> </span>Saturday, December 26, 2020 8:06 AM<br =
clear=3D"none" class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span =
class=3D""> </span>New England Triumphs <<a rel=3D"nofollow =
noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" =
href=3D"mailto:net@newenglandtriumphs.org"; target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">net@newenglandtriumphs.org</a>>; TR3 Triumphs <<a =
rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" =
href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>>; David Friedlander <<a =
rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" =
href=3D"mailto:forzion7@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">forzion7@gmail.com</a>><br clear=3D"none" class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Subject:</b><span class=3D""> </span>Re: [NET] Battery =
charging</font>
<div class=3D""> </div>
</div>
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style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weigh=
t:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-s=
pace:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none" class=3D"">
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt" =
class=3D"">I believe the Optima is an AGM (absorbed glass Mat) battery =
and quite different than the lead acid Die Hard. They are among other =
things far less prone to loss of charge from sitting idle. You situation =
makes perfect sense.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt" =
class=3D"">Tom<br clear=3D"none" class=3D""></div>
<div class=3D"">
<div id=3D"gmail-m_1503535171074569627yiv0738254734x_appendonsend" =
class=3D""></div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt" =
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<hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:983.906px" class=3D"">
<div dir=3D"ltr" =
id=3D"gmail-m_1503535171074569627yiv0738254734x_divRplyFwdMsg" =
class=3D""><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt" =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">From:</b><span class=3D""> </span>NET =
<<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" =
href=3D"mailto:net-bounces@newenglandtriumphs.org"; target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">net-bounces@newenglandtriumphs.org</a>> on behalf of David =
Friedlander via NET <<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" =
shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:net@newenglandtriumphs.org"; =
target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">net@newenglandtriumphs.org</a>><br =
clear=3D"none" class=3D""><b class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D""> </span>Friday, December 25, 2020 3:17 PM<br =
clear=3D"none" class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span =
class=3D""> </span>New England Triumphs <<a rel=3D"nofollow =
noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" =
href=3D"mailto:net@newenglandtriumphs.org"; target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">net@newenglandtriumphs.org</a>>; TR3 Triumphs <<a =
rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" =
href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br clear=3D"none" class=3D""><b=
class=3D"">Subject:</b><span class=3D""> </span>[NET] Battery =
charging</font>
<div class=3D""> </div>
</div>
<div class=3D"">Hey all ~ Merry Christmas ...!
<div class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" class=3D""></div>
<div class=3D"">I have one float charger that serves both my TR3 that =
has an Optima red top battery and my TR6 that has a Sears Die Hard. =
Seems like even though each battery is only 2 -3 years old, the Die Hard =
seems to need more frequent =E2=80=9Ctopping up=E2=80=9D than the =
Optima.... Interesting....</div>
<div class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" class=3D""></div>
<div class=3D"">Dave</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
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