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X3 on disconnecting the battery when not in use. I just leave the clamp
loose enough that I can pull it off.
"Now considering the design of these vehicles, there is quite an array of
wiring that sits 'live' all the time, many unfused."
That is why I have also installed fusible links on the brown wire and white
wire circuits.
Without those links the 'fuse' is your wiring loom. If you ever smell one
burning... it is a scent that stays in your memory.
Geo
On Wed, Sep 30, 2020, 8:48 AM <ptegler@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> Here Here!
> In 2004 I had a dozen of so people in my garage, rebuilding 6-8
> transmissions in a group tech session. One fellow (without a tranny in
> hand) simply drove up in his Triumph for the day's event. One question h=
e
> posed during the day to those in attendance, was what might
> be draining his battery when the car was just sitting for a week or so.
> We all told him to just put a battery cut-off switch in to be safe, at
> least until he figured out his long standing battery issue.
>
> Fast forward to 2010? - 2012? time frame...we (our gang) get an email
> telling of the demise of his car and his exit from the hobby.
> As the story goes, he heard a loud crack from the garage (attached). Upon
> opening the kitchen/garage door, he was met with thick acrid black smoke
> that instantly filled the kitchen/house. both his Triumph and wife's SUV
> were engulfed in flames. The smoke in the house was bad enough that it
> killed his two large amazon parrots. Needless to say building damage as
> well as the loss of two cherished pets and two motor vehicles was enough
> for the wife to say "you're done! no more cars!"
>
>
> Now considering the design of these vehicles, there is quite an array of
> wiring that sits 'live' all the time, many unfused. A little vibration a=
nd
> chaffing can easily reduce insulation thickness etc. Cracked and brittle
> jackets... the list goes on.
>
> IT CAN NOT BE STATED UNEQUIVICABLY ENOUGH..... INSTALL A BATTERY CUT-OFF.
>
> If for no other reason, the simplicity of safely working on the car as
> needed,.... theft deterrent, etc.
> If for a good reason, peace of mind, and the story above. (yes true
> story above..from someone that DID 'have a clue' about what he was doing.=
)
>
> ptegler
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dave <dave@ranteer.com>
> To: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2020 8:08 am
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Ignitions switch AUX vs.ON
>
> We have battery cutoff switches on all our cars. Given the dicey
> electrics on these cars I think it=E2=80=99s a pretty important thing to =
do.
> Pretty much every time we walk away from the car we disconnect it.
>
>
>
> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Will
> Daehler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2020 4:17 PM
> *To:* triumphs@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [TR] TR4 Ignitions switch AUX vs.ON
>
>
>
> OK, I have in the past inadvertently left my key in the ON position. For
> days and days. The result was a burned out coil and points which I was
> forced to replace before the car started again. This made me look hard an=
d
> long at my fifty year old ignition switch. Although there was a contact
> available for AUX on the back of the switch, and it was certainly wired
> correctly, there didn=E2=80=99t seem to be a AUX key position. There appe=
ared to be
> only three positions, Start, On and Off. Three clicks, not four. I was
> able to create a momentary and intermittent AUX effect by twisting the ke=
y
> hard to the left and firmly holding it there, the radio would come on.
>
>
>
> It eventually occurred to me that the switch was worn out, and so I
> replaced it with a new one. Voila, I now have an AUX function, and can n=
ow
> listen to the radio at leisure without burning out the ignition circuits.
> This replacement switch also has the feature where you have to push the k=
ey
> in slightly when simultaneously turning the key to the AUX position.
>
>
>
> Faithfully submitted,
>
>
>
> Will Daehler
>
> 63 TR4
>
> Powder Blue
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto">X3 on disconnecting the battery when no=
t in use.=C2=A0 I just leave the clamp loose enough that I can pull it off.=
<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">"<span style=3D"font-fam=
ily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px">Now considering the des=
ign of these vehicles, there is quite an array of wiring that sits 'liv=
e' all the time,=C2=A0many=C2=A0unfused."</span></div><div dir=3D"=
auto"><br></div></div>That is why I have also installed fusible links on th=
e brown wire and white wire circuits.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto">Without those links the 'fuse' is your wiring loom.=C2=A0=
If you ever smell one burning... it is a scent that stays in your memory.<=
/div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Geo</div><div dir=3D"aut=
o"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote" dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed,=
Sep 30, 2020, 8:48 AM <<a href=3D"mailto:ptegler@verizon.net"; target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">ptegler@verizon.net</a>> wrote:<br></div>=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:ari=
al,helvetica,sans-serif;color:black"><div style=3D"color:black;font-family:=
arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><br>Here Here!</div><div style=
=3D"color:black;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">In 2=
004 I had a dozen of so people in my garage, rebuilding 6-8 transmissions=
=C2=A0in a group tech session. One fellow (without a tranny in hand) simply=
drove up in his Triumph for the day's event.=C2=A0 One question he pos=
ed during the day to those in attendance,=C2=A0 was what might be=C2=A0drai=
ning=C2=A0his battery when the car was just sitting for a week or so.<br></=
div><div style=3D"color:black;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-s=
ize:10pt">We all told him to just put a battery cut-off switch in to be saf=
e, at least until he figured out his long standing battery issue.<br><br>Fa=
st forward to=C2=A0 2010? - 2012? time frame...we (our gang) get an email t=
elling of the demise of his car and his exit from the hobby.=C2=A0 </div><d=
iv style=3D"color:black;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10=
pt">As the story goes, he heard a loud crack from the garage (attached). Up=
on opening the kitchen/garage door, he was met with thick acrid black smoke=
that instantly filled the kitchen/house.=C2=A0 both his Triumph and wife&#=
39;s SUV were engulfed in flames.=C2=A0 The smoke in the house was bad enou=
gh that it killed his two large=C2=A0amazon=C2=A0parrots. Needless to say b=
uilding damage as well as the loss of two cherished pets and two motor vehi=
cles was enough for the wife to say=C2=A0"you're done! no more=C2=
=A0cars!"<br><br><br>Now considering the design of these vehicles, the=
re is quite an array of wiring that sits 'live' all the time,=C2=A0=
many=C2=A0unfused.=C2=A0 A little vibration and chaffing can easily reduce =
insulation thickness etc. Cracked and brittle jackets... the list goes on.<=
br><br>IT CAN NOT BE STATED UNEQUIVICABLY ENOUGH..... INSTALL A BATTERY CUT=
-OFF.</div><div style=3D"color:black;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif=
;font-size:10pt"><br>If for no other reason, the simplicity of=C2=A0safely =
working on the car as needed,.... theft deterrent, etc.=C2=A0 <br>If for a =
good reason,=C2=A0peace of mind, and=C2=A0 the story above.=C2=A0 (yes true=
story above..from someone that DID 'have a clue' about what he was=
doing.)<br><br>ptegler<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: dave=
<<a href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" targ=
et=3D"_blank">dave@ranteer.com</a>><br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@au=
tox.team.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">triumphs@auto=
x.team.net</a><br>Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2020 8:08 am<br>Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 =
Ignitions switch AUX vs.ON<br><br></div><div id=3D"m_5832323251184351836m_1=
151020120551484048yiv3162272966"><div><div><p>We have battery cutoff switch=
es on all our cars.=C2=A0 Given the dicey electrics on these cars I think i=
t=E2=80=99s a pretty important thing to do.=C2=A0 Pretty much every time we=
walk away from the car we disconnect it.</p><p> =C2=A0</p><div id=3D"m_583=
2323251184351836m_1151020120551484048yiv3162272966yqt71523"><div><div style=
=3D"border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;border-colo=
r:rgb(225,225,225) currentColor currentColor;padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p><b>Fro=
m:</b> Triumphs <<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net"; rel=
=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.ne=
t</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Will Daehler<br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> T=
uesday, September 29, 2020 4:17 PM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"=
mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_bl=
ank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> [TR] TR4=
Ignitions switch AUX vs.ON</p></div></div><p> =C2=A0</p><p>OK, I have in t=
he past inadvertently left my key in the ON position. For days and days.=C2=
=A0 The result was a burned out coil and points which I was forced to repla=
ce before the car started again. This made me look hard and long at my fift=
y year old ignition switch. Although there was a contact available for AUX =
on the back of the switch, and it was certainly wired correctly, there didn=
=E2=80=99t seem to be a AUX key position. There appeared to be only three p=
ositions, Start, On and Off. Three clicks, not four.=C2=A0 I was able to cr=
eate a momentary and intermittent AUX effect by twisting the key hard to th=
e left and firmly holding it there, the radio would come on.</p><p> =C2=A0<=
/p><p>It eventually occurred to me that the switch was worn out, and so I r=
eplaced it with a new one.=C2=A0 Voila, I now have an AUX function, and can=
now listen to the radio at leisure without burning out the ignition circui=
ts.=C2=A0 This replacement switch also has the feature where you have to pu=
sh the key in slightly when simultaneously turning the key to the AUX posit=
ion. </p><p> =C2=A0</p><p>Faithfully submitted,</p><p> =C2=A0</p><p>Will Da=
ehler</p><p>63 TR4</p><p>Powder Blue</p></div><p> =C2=A0</p><p> =C2=A0</p><=
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