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I sent this at 8:38 am, but it never came back around to me, so I don't kn=
ow if it went out to the list or not. =C2=A0Sorry if it did. =C2=A0This is=
the media my nephew used on my trailer.=0A=0ARye=0A=0ABegin forwarded mes=
sage:=0A=0AFrom: Rye Livingston <ryel@mac.com>=0ADate: 4/24/2020=0ATo: dav=
e <dave@ranteer.com>=0ACc: 'Triumphs' <triumphs@autox.team.net>=0ASubject:=
Re: [TR] sandblasting=0A=0A=0AOK, it's -=C2=A0COAL SLAG BLAST MEDIA=0Ahtt=
ps://www.agsco.com/coal-slag/=0A=0A=0AOn April 24, 2020 at 8:04 AM, dave <=
dave@ranteer.com> wrote:=0A=0AThat black media he used was likely ground u=
p lava.=C2=A0 I have used that and its not as aggressive as sand.=C2=A0=0A=
=C2=A0=0AFrom: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Rye=
Livingston=0ASent: Friday, April 24, 2020 9:25 AM=0ATo: DAVE HOGYE <dlhog=
ye@comcast.net>=0ACc: Triumphs (triumphs@autox.team.net) <triumphs@autox.t=
eam.net>=0ASubject: Re: [TR] sandblasting=0A=C2=A0=0AMy nephew started his=
own company of mobile power cleaning. =C2=A0He bought this serious diesel=
powered professional duel axle trailer rig in Texas, and he could power c=
lean with all kinds of media depending on the application, and he also had=
hot water blasting. =C2=A0He did all kinds of jobs, from vintage cars, bo=
ats for the Coast Guard, to BART stations in San Francisco for both graffi=
ti to human waste. =C2=A0And if that wasn't gross enough, he said one of t=
he worst was a Chinese restaurant that got sited and fined every day for g=
rease oozing out of the cinder black and concrete enclosure for their dump=
ster. =C2=A0One of his easiest jobs was my 8' long utility trailer.=0A=C2=A0=
=0AIn all those situations, a mobile service=C2=A0like his, they will=C2=A0=
capture and clean up the=C2=A0media and waste, big vacuum system. For that=
Chinese restaurant he put out dams to channel the water and goo and=C2=A0=
were vacuuming up all that grease and hot water, very gross. =C2=A0=0A=C2=A0=
=0AAt my house he used an inert material, but it was not sand. =C2=A0It wa=
s some sort of black material that looked like shards of coal. =C2=A0I've =
texted him to find out what it was.=0A=C2=A0=0AAs was=C2=A0mentioned, for =
the cars he blasted, he had a couple of "learning" cars that were not vint=
age. =C2=A0The trick was to=C2=A0learn not to let the hood, or any long bo=
dy panel, get=C2=A0hot and warp. =C2=A0So check for references to make sur=
e who you hire has that experience. =C2=A0After he learned he did several =
cars including BMWs and vintage 911s and 356 Porsches.=0A=C2=A0=0AWhen he =
did this work, he had a full helmet respirator setup, coveralls, gloves an=
d boots. =C2=A0No media got where he didn't want it, but he was a hot swea=
ty mess when he took that helmet off.=0A=C2=A0=0AI live in a cul-de-sac an=
d he did the blasting down there, and there was just a little bit of media=
that was under the trailer that didn't get cleaned up, so again, a mobile=
service has a process to not leave all that behind.=0A=C2=A0=0AHe also ha=
d a "rust inhibitor" he sprayed on the bare metal so it didn't get a quick=
flash rust overnight. =C2=A0Google that for details. I was able to paint =
over that no problem. =C2=A0I bought a gallon of black Rust-Oleum paint an=
d repainted it myself and it's like a new trailer.=0A=C2=A0=0AGood luck,=0A=
=C2=A0=0ARye=0APH: 530-FIND-RYE=0A=0AOn April 23, 2020 at 9:04 PM, DAVE HO=
GYE <dlhogye@comcast.net> wrote:=0A=0ABack in '08-'09, I had my TR3 body t=
ub and frame blasted at a local powder coating company.=C2=A0 $300 each.=C2=
=A0 They blasted every square inch with crushed garnet.=C2=A0 The tub was =
stripped of every bolt-on part.=C2=A0 In two different visits, I set up bo=
th items on my makeshift engine stand rotisserie, with custom attachments,=
to make it a lot easier for them and the best outcome.=C2=A0 Worth every =
penny and more.=0ASkip this part if you can and have a company do this wor=
k.=C2=A0 You might even consider a mobile unit come to you.=C2=A0 Differen=
t media can be used depending on paint or rust.=C2=A0 Special care has to =
be taken on body parts, not to warp them, but if the person has a little f=
inesse, any harm can be avoided.=0AThe important part of good blasting is =
high CFM from the compressor.=C2=A0 If you don't have enough CFM, you'll b=
e working way too hard for way too long.=C2=A0=0ADave H.=0A=C2=A0=0AOn Apr=
il 23, 2020 at 8:25 PM Greg Lemon <grglmn@gmail.com> wrote:=0A=0AI strippe=
d a TR4 years ago over the course of I don't remember how many evenings af=
ter work, using several gallons of paint stripper bought at closeout tool =
store, saying never again and wishing I had a sandblaster.=C2=A0=C2=A0=0A=C2=
=A0=0ABe careful what you wish for I guess.=0A=C2=A0=0AGreg Lemon=0ATR250=0A=
=C2=A0=0AOn Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 9:08 PM Jeff Scarbrough < fishplate@gmail.c=
om> wrote:=0A=C2=A0=0A=C2=A0=0AOn Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 8:53 PM Michael Por=
ter < mdporter@dfn.com> wrote:=0A=C2=A0=0AWhich reminds me of J.E. Gordon'=
s (The New Science of Strong Materials) remark about production welding:=C2=
=A0 "Welding is like Hell--fun for the first three or four hours."=0A=C2=A0=
=0A=C2=A0=0AThere was a time when I couldn't wait to learn how to run the =
cotton picker at work.=C2=A0 It got old kind of quick...But it still beat =
a day in the office in front of the computer.=0A=C2=A0=0A=C2=A0=0A** trium=
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<html><body><div>I sent this at 8:38 am, but it never came back around to me,
so I don=
't know if it went out to the list or not. Sorry if it did. Th=
is is the media my nephew used on my trailer.</div><div><br data-mce-bogus=
=3D"1"></div><div class=3D"x-apple-signature">Rye<br></div><div><br>Begin =
forwarded message:<br><br></div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span style=
=3D"color: #000000;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #000000;"><b></b></span><div=
class=3D"msg-quote"><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span style=3D"color: =
#000000;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #000000;"><b>From: </b></span><span>Rye=
Livingston <ryel@mac.com></span><br><span style=3D"color: #000000;"=
data-mce-style=3D"color: #000000;"><b>Date: </b></span><span>4/24/2020</s=
pan><br><span style=3D"color: #000000;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #000000;"=
><b>To: </b></span><span>dave <dave@ranteer.com></span><br><span sty=
le=3D"color: #000000;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #000000;"><b>Cc: </b></spa=
n><span>'Triumphs' <triumphs@autox.team.net></span><br><span style=3D=
"color: #000000;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #000000;"><b>Subject: </b></spa=
n><span><b>Re: [TR] sandblasting</b></span><br><br><div class=3D"msg-quote=
"><div><br></div><div>OK, it's - COAL SLAG BLAST MEDIA</div><div><a h=
ref=3D"https://www.agsco.com/coal-slag/"; data-mce-href=3D"https://www.agsc=
o.com/coal-slag/">https://www.agsco.com/coal-slag/</a></div><div><br></div=
><div><br>On April 24, 2020 at 8:04 AM, dave <dave@ranteer.com> wrot=
e:<br><br></div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"msg-quote" la=
ng=3D"EN-US"><div class=3D"WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">That black=
media he used was likely ground up lava. I have used that and its n=
ot as aggressive as sand. </p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p><div><=
div style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt=
0in 0in 0in;" data-mce-style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #E1E1E1 1=
.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Tri=
umphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rye Livi=
ngston<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 24, 2020 9:25 AM<br><b>To:</b> DAVE H=
OGYE <dlhogye@comcast.net><br><b>Cc:</b> Triumphs (triumphs@autox.te=
am.net) <triumphs@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] sandbl=
asting</p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal">My nephew started his own company of mobile power cleaning.  =
;He bought this serious diesel powered professional duel axle trailer rig =
in Texas, and he could power clean with all kinds of media depending on th=
e application, and he also had hot water blasting. He did all kinds =
of jobs, from vintage cars, boats for the Coast Guard, to BART stations in=
San Francisco for both graffiti to human waste. And if that wasn't =
gross enough, he said one of the worst was a Chinese restaurant that got s=
ited and fined every day for grease oozing out of the cinder black and con=
crete enclosure for their dumpster. One of his easiest jobs was my 8=
' long utility trailer.</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">In all those situations, a mobile service&n=
bsp;like his, they will capture and clean up the media and waste=
, big vacuum system. For that Chinese restaurant he put out dams to channe=
l the water and goo and were vacuuming up all that grease and hot wat=
er, very gross. </p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p></di=
v><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">At my house he used an inert material, but i=
t was not sand. It was some sort of black material that looked like =
shards of coal. I've texted him to find out what it was.</p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">As w=
as mentioned, for the cars he blasted, he had a couple of "learning" =
cars that were not vintage. The trick was to learn not to let t=
he hood, or any long body panel, get hot and warp. So check for=
references to make sure who you hire has that experience. After he =
learned he did several cars including BMWs and vintage 911s and 356 Porsch=
es.</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal">When he did this work, he had a full helmet respirator setup, c=
overalls, gloves and boots. No media got where he didn't want it, bu=
t he was a hot sweaty mess when he took that helmet off.</p></div><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I live in =
a cul-de-sac and he did the blasting down there, and there was just a litt=
le bit of media that was under the trailer that didn't get cleaned up, so =
again, a mobile service has a process to not leave all that behind.</p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
>He also had a "rust inhibitor" he sprayed on the bare metal so it didn't =
get a quick flash rust overnight. Google that for details. I was abl=
e to paint over that no problem. I bought a gallon of black Rust-Ole=
um paint and repainted it myself and it's like a new trailer.</p></div><di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Good =
luck,</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">Rye<br>PH: 530-FIND-RYE</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" s=
tyle=3D"margin-bottom: 12.0pt;" data-mce-style=3D"margin-bottom: 12.0pt;">=
<br>On April 23, 2020 at 9:04 PM, DAVE HOGYE <<a href=3D"mailto:dlhogye=
@comcast.net" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:dlhogye@comcast.net";>dlhogye@comcast=
.net</a>> wrote:</p></div><div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5.0pt; =
margin-bottom: 5.0pt;" data-mce-style=3D"margin-top: 5.0pt; margin-bottom:=
5.0pt;"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt=
; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #333333;" data-mce-style=3D"=
font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #333333;">B=
ack in '08-'09, I had my TR3 body tub and frame blasted at a local powder =
coating company. $300 each. They blasted every square inch wit=
h crushed garnet. The tub was stripped of every bolt-on part. =
In two different visits, I set up both items on my makeshift engine stand =
rotisserie, with custom attachments, to make it a lot easier for them and =
the best outcome. Worth every penny and more.</span></p></div><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Helv=
etica',sans-serif; color: #333333;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; f=
ont-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #333333;">Skip this part if you=
can and have a company do this work. You might even consider a mobi=
le unit come to you. Different media can be used depending on paint =
or rust. Special care has to be taken on body parts, not to warp the=
m, but if the person has a little finesse, any harm can be avoided.</span>=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; fo=
nt-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #333333;" data-mce-style=3D"font=
-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #333333;">The i=
mportant part of good blasting is high CFM from the compressor. If y=
ou don't have enough CFM, you'll be working way too hard for way too long.=
</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #333333;" data-mce-=
style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #3=
33333;">Dave H.</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #333333;" =
data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; =
color: #333333;"> </span></p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5=
.0pt; margin-bottom: 5.0pt;" data-mce-style=3D"margin-top: 5.0pt; margin-b=
ottom: 5.0pt;"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: 12.0pt;" dat=
a-mce-style=3D"margin-bottom: 12.0pt;">On April 23, 2020 at 8:25 PM Greg L=
emon <<a href=3D"mailto:grglmn@gmail.com"; data-mce-href=3D"mailto:grglm=
n@gmail.com">grglmn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
">I stripped a TR4 years ago over the course of I don't remember how many =
evenings after work, using several gallons of paint stripper bought at clo=
seout tool store, saying never again and wishing I had a sandblaster. =
; </p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal">Be careful what you wish for I guess.</p><div><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"> </p></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Greg Lemon</p></div><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">TR250</p></div></div></div></div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"> </p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, =
9:08 PM Jeff Scarbrough < <a href=3D"mailto:fishplate@gmail.com"; data-m=
ce-href=3D"mailto:fishplate@gmail.com";>fishplate@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<=
/p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5.0pt; margin-bottom: 5.0pt;" da=
ta-mce-style=3D"margin-top: 5.0pt; margin-bottom: 5.0pt;"><div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"> </p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p><div><di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 8:53 PM Michael Porter &l=
t; <a href=3D"mailto:mdporter@dfn.com"; data-mce-href=3D"mailto:mdporter@df=
n.com">mdporter@dfn.com</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style=3D"margi=
n-top: 5.0pt; margin-bottom: 5.0pt;" data-mce-style=3D"margin-top: 5.0pt; =
margin-bottom: 5.0pt;"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p></div><p=
>Which reminds me of J.E. Gordon's (<em><span style=3D"font-family: 'Calib=
ri',sans-serif;" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;">The=
New Science of Strong Materials</span></em>) remark about production weld=
ing: "Welding is like Hell--fun for the first three or four hours."<=
/p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p></blockquote><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"> </p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">There was a time when=
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