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The government research farm I worked at had a couple of 620s. Sold them
on to a collector when we closed the location.
On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 3:22 PM Michael Marr <mmarr@albiontechnical.com>
wrote:
> I=E2=80=99m a two-cylinder John Deere fan, myself, and hope to own a 50 o=
r a
> 520/530 one day, if SWMBO allows it.
>
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> Michael J Marr, P.E., CEng.
>
> Albion Technical Services
>
> W5918 Hackbarth Rd
>
> Fort Atkinson, WI 53538
>
>
>
> Cell: 630-202-0065
>
> Email: mmarr@albiontechnical.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *TERRY
> SMITH
> *Sent:* Friday, April 10, 2020 9:15 AM
> *To:* Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson@charter.net>; triumphs <
> triumphs@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] Bolts: This is nuts!
>
>
>
> Ah, the tractor is a 1953 Ford Jubilee. Chose it because, like the
> Triumph, most all parts are available after market, and those few that
> aren't are available used. The attached photo is after rebuilding the car=
b,
> engine and transmission, re-assembling them all, sand blasting and applyi=
ng
> the first coat of paint (needed two) using the inexpensive but actually
> pretty terrific Harbor Freight spray gun. We have 38 acres here, about 2=
5
> of which we can't access because of a stream that intersects the property=
.
> I can cross it with a tractor, though. Lots of firewood down out there.
>
>
>
> And I thought the TR3 was simple to work on....
>
> On April 10, 2020 at 8:28 AM Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson@charter.ne=
t>
> wrote:
>
> Terry =E2=80=93 Here=E2=80=99s a question. What kind of a machine are you=
restoring? I
> have found that sometimes unusual hardware, such as metric carriage bolts=
,
> is relatively inexpensive from the machine dealer. I do mean sometimes!
> Other times, it seems like legalized extortion. For many years, I was
> always of the opinion that I would buy box quantities of whatever I neede=
d
> since it was about 60% of the individual cost. Maybe not for things such =
as
> cylinder head bolts but for common 3/8=E2=80=9D x 4=E2=80=9D and other si=
zes that you might
> use for hay wagon construction and other farm construction was a
> no-brainer. An auction at an iron working shop 30 years ago (structural
> steel erection) provided me with about 1000 lbs. or more of =C2=BE, 7/8, =
1, 1 =C2=BC,
> and 1 =C2=BD=E2=80=9D bolts of various lengths for $250 =E2=80=93 that wa=
s a steal. These days,
> I admit, I think twice before buying large quantities of fasteners.
> McMaster-Carr is very inexpensive for a lot of things. Special sized snap
> rings are about a tenth of the cost from Deere. O-rings are the same way.=
A
> package of 100 from McMaster costs about the same as a package of 10 from
> Motion Industries after you look at some of the crazy shipping prices.
>
>
>
> Alex Thomson
>
> 2 Triumphs
>
> About 8 Deeres =E2=80=93 1939 =E2=80=93 2008
>
> 1 Case
>
> 1 Farmall
>
>
>
> *From:* Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net
> <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net>] *On Behalf Of *TERRY SMITH
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 09, 2020 2:53 PM
> *To:* triumphs
> *Subject:* [TR] Bolts: This is nuts!
>
>
>
> It's a family discussion whenever anyone wants/needs to leave the house
> for obvious reasons. So instead of running to the hardware store to pick
> up some grade 8 bolts for my tractor restoration, I'm having to look at
> what I can order online.
>
>
>
> My first thought was McMaster-Carr. Found what I need, but I don't need
> 25 3/8ths bolts 1 1/4 inches long. What I need are four to eight of
> various sizes and threads.
>
>
>
> Anybody have a preferred online source for quality-to-cost bolts?
>
>
>
> Terry Smith, '59 TR3A
>
> New Hampshire
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">The government research farm I worked at had a couple of 6=
20s.=C2=A0 Sold them on to a collector when we closed the location.=C2=A0=
=C2=A0</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_=
attr">On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 3:22 PM Michael Marr <<a href=3D"mailto:mm=
arr@albiontechnical.com">mmarr@albiontechnical.com</a>> wrote:<br></div>=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div lang=3D"EN-US">
<div class=3D"gmail-m_-7008993643764797744WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99m a two-cylinder John Deere fan, myself, a=
nd hope to own a 50 or a 520/530 one day, if SWMBO allows it.<u></u><u></u>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Mike<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Michael J Marr, P.E., CEng.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Albion Technical Services<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">W5918 Hackbarth Rd<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Fort Atkinson, WI 53538<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cell:=C2=A0 630-202-0065<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Email:=C2=A0 <a href=3D"mailto:mmarr@albiontechnical=
.com" target=3D"_blank">mmarr@albiontechnical.com</a><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-=
top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Triumphs <<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs=
-bounces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net<=
/a>> <b>On Behalf Of
</b>TERRY SMITH<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 10, 2020 9:15 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Alex & Janet Thomson <<a href=3D"mailto:aljlthomson@chart=
er.net" target=3D"_blank">aljlthomson@charter.net</a>>; triumphs <<a =
href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">triumphs@autox.te=
am.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Bolts: This is nuts!<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica,=
sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Ah, the tractor is a 1953 Ford Jubilee.=C2=
=A0 Chose it because, like the Triumph, most all parts are available after =
market, and those few that aren't are available
used. The attached photo is after rebuilding the carb, engine and transmis=
sion, re-assembling them all, sand blasting and applying the first coat of =
paint (needed two) using the inexpensive but actually pretty terrific Harbo=
r Freight spray gun.=C2=A0 We have 38
acres here, about 25 of which we can't access because of a stream that=
intersects the property.=C2=A0 I can cross it with a tractor, though.=C2=
=A0 Lots of firewood down out there.=C2=A0=C2=A0
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica,=
sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica,=
sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">And I thought the TR3 was simple to work on=
....=C2=A0=C2=A0
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt">On April 10, 2020 at 8:=
28 AM Alex & Janet Thomson <<a href=3D"mailto:aljlthomson@charter.ne=
t" target=3D"_blank">aljlthomson@charter.net</a>> wrote:
<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"gmail-m_-7008993643764797744ox-67bfb41f8d-msonormal"><span styl=
e=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">Terry =E2=80=93 Here=E2=80=99s a question. What =
kind of a machine are you restoring? I have found that sometimes unusual ha=
rdware, such as metric carriage bolts, is relatively inexpensive from the m=
achine dealer.
I do mean sometimes! Other times, it seems like legalized extortion. For m=
any years, I was always of the opinion that I would buy box quantities of w=
hatever I needed since it was about 60% of the individual cost. Maybe not f=
or things such as cylinder head
bolts but for common 3/8=E2=80=9D x 4=E2=80=9D and other sizes that you mi=
ght use for hay wagon construction and other farm construction was a no-bra=
iner. An auction at an iron working shop 30 years ago (structural steel ere=
ction) provided me with about 1000 lbs. or more
of =C2=BE, 7/8, 1, 1 =C2=BC, and 1 =C2=BD=E2=80=9D bolts of various length=
s for $250 =E2=80=93 that was a steal. These days, I admit, I think twice b=
efore buying large quantities of fasteners. McMaster-Carr is very inexpensi=
ve for a lot of things. Special sized snap rings are about a tenth
of the cost from Deere. O-rings are the same way. A package of 100 from Mc=
Master costs about the same as a package of 10 from Motion Industries after=
you look at some of the crazy shipping prices.
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"gmail-m_-7008993643764797744ox-67bfb41f8d-msonormal"><span styl=
e=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">=C2=A0 </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"gmail-m_-7008993643764797744ox-67bfb41f8d-msonormal"><span styl=
e=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">Alex Thomson </span>
<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"gmail-m_-7008993643764797744ox-67bfb41f8d-msonormal"><span styl=
e=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">2 Triumphs </span>
<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"gmail-m_-7008993643764797744ox-67bfb41f8d-msonormal"><span styl=
e=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">About 8 Deeres =E2=80=93 1939 =E2=80=93 2008
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"gmail-m_-7008993643764797744ox-67bfb41f8d-msonormal"><span styl=
e=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">1 Case </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"gmail-m_-7008993643764797744ox-67bfb41f8d-msonormal"><span styl=
e=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">1 Farmall </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"gmail-m_-7008993643764797744ox-67bfb41f8d-msonormal"><span styl=
e=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">=C2=A0 </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-=
top:1pt solid rgb(181,196,223);padding:3pt 0in 0in">
<p class=3D"gmail-m_-7008993643764797744ox-67bfb41f8d-msonormal"><strong><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></st=
rong><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> Triumphs=
[<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">mail=
to:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]
<strong><span style=3D"font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">On Behalf Of </span><=
/strong>TERRY SMITH<br>
<strong><span style=3D"font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">Sent:</span></strong>=
Thursday, April 09, 2020 2:53 PM<br>
<strong><span style=3D"font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">To:</span></strong> t=
riumphs<br>
<strong><span style=3D"font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">Subject:</span></stro=
ng> [TR] Bolts: This is nuts!
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"gmail-m_-7008993643764797744ox-67bfb41f8d-msonormal">=C2=A0<u><=
/u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"gmail-m_-7008993643764797744ox-67bfb41f8d-msonormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">It's a famil=
y discussion whenever anyone wants/needs to leave the house for obvious rea=
sons.=C2=A0 So instead of running to the hardware store to pick up some gra=
de
8 bolts for my tractor restoration, I'm having to look at what I can o=
rder online.
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"gmail-m_-7008993643764797744ox-67bfb41f8d-msonormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">=C2=A0
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"gmail-m_-7008993643764797744ox-67bfb41f8d-msonormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">My first thought=
was McMaster-Carr.=C2=A0 Found what I need, but I don't need 25 3/8ths=
bolts 1 1/4 inches long.=C2=A0 What I need are four to eight of various si=
zes and
threads.=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"gmail-m_-7008993643764797744ox-67bfb41f8d-msonormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">=C2=A0
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"gmail-m_-7008993643764797744ox-67bfb41f8d-msonormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Anybody have a p=
referred online source for quality-to-cost bolts?=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"gmail-m_-7008993643764797744ox-67bfb41f8d-msonormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">=C2=A0
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"gmail-m_-7008993643764797744ox-67bfb41f8d-msonormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Terry Smith, =
9;59 TR3A
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"gmail-m_-7008993643764797744ox-67bfb41f8d-msonormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">New Hampshire
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"gmail-m_-7008993643764797744ox-67bfb41f8d-msonormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">=C2=A0
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"gmail-m_-7008993643764797744ox-67bfb41f8d-msonormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">=C2=A0
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
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sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br>
=C2=A0 <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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