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That's a good point.=C2=A0 It is likely due to over-torquing the bolts.=C2=
=A0 The stamped steel oil pans deform easily and torquing the bolts too muc=
h will pinch the gasket to the point that it will tear.=C2=A0 Do the Alpha'=
s have cast sumps?=C2=A0 Cast sumps do a much better job of distributing th=
e pressure across the length of the span between bolts.=C2=A0 They are much=
more tolerant of this sort of misapplication.=C2=A0=20
If the gasket it adhered to one surface or the other (either the block or t=
he pan) it will be reinforced and much less likely to fail in this manner.=
=C2=A0 Using Ultra Gray and my two-step tightening procedure should do the =
trick as would using Form-A-Gasket #2 on one side and the two-step procedur=
e again.
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Dave=20
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From: Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate@gmail.com>
To: Triumphs (triumphs@autox.team.net) <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, Mar 29, 2020 7:28 am
Subject: Re: [TR] Gasket sealant for sump
On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 8:22 PM Dean Mericas <dmericas@gmail.com> wrote:
Today I had a massive failure installing the sump gasket using Hylotyte Red=
100 sealant. It seems to have weakened the gasket to the point that it tore=
around several bolt holes as I torqued the bolts.=20
This doesn't sound like a sealant problem...=C2=A0 It's made to be a gasket=
dressing.=C2=A0 How could it weaken a gasket, especially a stout one like =
a sump gasket?=C2=A0** triumphs@autox.team.net **
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<div> <font size=3D"3">That's a good point. It is likely due to over-=
torquing the bolts. The stamped steel oil pans deform easily and torq=
uing the bolts too much will pinch the gasket to the point that it will tea=
r. Do the Alpha's have cast sumps? Cast sumps do a much better =
job of distributing the pressure across the length of the span between bolt=
s. They are much more tolerant of this sort of misapplication. =
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<div><font size=3D"3">If the gasket it adhered to one surface or the other =
(either the block or the pan) it will be reinforced and much less likely to=
fail in this manner. Using Ultra Gray and my two-step tightening pro=
cedure should do the trick as would using Form-A-Gasket #2 on one side and =
the two-step procedure again.</font><br>
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From: Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate@gmail.com><br>
To: Triumphs (triumphs@autox.team.net) <triumphs@autox.team.net><br>
Sent: Sun, Mar 29, 2020 7:28 am<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] Gasket sealant for sump<br>
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Today I had a massive failure installing the sump gasket using Hylotyte Red=
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