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Even if the ENGINE may not mind cruising at 4K rpm, I do not. =20
The Toyota tranny is quoted at 80 MPH at 3K RPM. I think this correlates wi=
th 5th gear ratio of 0.75. I would love to have that ratio on the Miata tra=
nsmission. =20
Some trannies have optional gear sets to select your ratios to suit your nee=
ds. Maybe Miata offers a similar option. =20
Sent from my 1837 Babbage Analytical Engine
> On Jan 2, 2020, at 10:19 PM, Bryan Loy <paradisemusicnc@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> I don't know, Tony. I'm not sure what the ratio numbers are, I do know th=
at that little 4 banger just buzzes on and on, doesn't seem to mind the high=
reves at all, redlines at 7K, where the TR6 is at 5500, if I'm not mistaken=
. I really don't think that the TR6 engine would enjoy 4K at 80 mph, but I c=
ould be wrong. I was once. :-)
> Bryan
>=20
>> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 6:46 PM Anthony Rhodes <spamiam@comcast.net> wrote=
:
>> Hmmm. 3K rpm at 60 MPH is about what my 4th gear is on my non-OD tranny. =
I would have thought that the Miata 5th gear might have been =E2=80=9Cdir=
ect=E2=80=9D, like the TR=E2=80=99s 4th. And 6th would be some sort of overd=
rive.=20
>>=20
>> Without having 20-30% overdrive then there is no great advantage to the M=
iata unit!
>>=20
>> -Tony
>>=20
>> Sent from my 1837 Babbage Analytical Engine
>>=20
>>>> On Jan 2, 2020, at 2:40 PM, Bryan Loy <paradisemusicnc@gmail.com> wrote=
:
>>>>=20
>>> =EF=BB=BF
>>> As far as gear ratios go, I can't say, numbers wise, but I have an '04 M=
X5 with the 6 speed, and it is low. 6th gear at 60mph, the engine is turnin=
g 3K. Pretty much 20MPH for every 1K on the tach.=20
>>> Bryan
>>>=20
>>>> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 2:27 PM Anthony Rhodes <spamiam@comcast.net> wro=
te:
>>>> It is indeed pricey. But it appears to be a complete new transmission a=
nd all the required adapter stuff ready to go. The only way it would be bet=
ter as a conversion is if it retained the original space cylinder.
>>>>=20
>>>> So for a complete new modern (hopefully long life) overdrive transmissi=
on, the price is not terrible.
>>>>=20
>>>> It is likely a better solution than the HVDA because those old Toyota t=
ransmissions may well be =E2=80=9Cused up=E2=80=9D,not just =E2=80=9Cused=E2=
=80=9D. And they are hard to find. =20
>>>>=20
>>>> For me, I found the right Toyota transmission to be as rare as ... as a=
friend of mine puts it... as rare as rocking horse manure. He may not a=
ctually have used the word =E2=80=9Cmanure=E2=80=9D.=20
>>>>=20
>>>> So I like this Miata option!
>>>>=20
>>>> Does anyone know the gear ratios? The Moss description does not indica=
te the ratios. =20
>>>>=20
>>>> -Tony
>>>>=20
>>>> Sent from my 1837 Babbage Analytical Engine
>>>>=20
>>>> > On Jan 2, 2020, at 2:02 PM, triumphs-request@autox.team.net wrote:
>>>> >=20
>>>> > Message: 1
>>>> > Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2020 13:54:49 -0600
>>>> > From: Dean Mericas <dmericas@gmail.com>
>>>> > To: triumphs@autox.team.net
>>>> > Subject: [TR] Experience with Vitesse 5-speed transmission conversion=
?
>>>> > Message-ID: <3D51629D-3D80-44B6-9EEF-01C3BD216362@gmail.com>
>>>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dutf-8
>>>> >=20
>>>> > I see that Moss now carries an a 5-speed transmission conversion that=
appears to use Miata internals in a custom case and bell housing. It isn?t c=
heap, but as an apparent drop in replacement I think the installed cost may b=
e about the same as the Toyota-based HVDA kit.
>>>> >=20
>>>> > Does anyone on the list have first hand experience with this particul=
ar conversion?
>>>> >=20
>>>> > Thanks.=20
>>>> >=20
>>>> > Dean Mericas
>>>> > 1965 TR4
>>>> > Austin, TX
>>>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Even if the ENGINE may not mind cruising at=
4K rpm, I do not. <div><br></div><div>The Toyota tranny is quot=
ed at 80 MPH at 3K RPM. I think this correlates with 5th gear ratio of=
0.75. I would love to have that ratio on the Miata transmission. &nbs=
p;</div><div><br></div><div>Some trannies have optional gear sets to select y=
our ratios to suit your needs. Maybe Miata offers a similar option. &n=
bsp;<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my 1837 Babbage Analytical Engine</di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 2, 2020, at 10:19 PM=
, Bryan Loy <paradisemusicnc@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></d=
iv><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr">I do=
n't know, Tony. I'm not sure what the ratio numbers are, I do know tha=
t that little 4 banger just buzzes on and on, doesn't seem to mind the h=
igh reves at all, redlines at 7K, where the TR6 is at 5500, if I'm not mista=
ken. I really don't think that the TR6 engine would enjoy 4K at 80 mph=
, but I could be wrong. I was once. :-)<div>Bryan</div></div><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan=
2, 2020 at 6:46 PM Anthony Rhodes <<a href=3D"mailto:spamiam@comcast.net=
">spamiam@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-styl=
e:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"aut=
o">Hmmm. 3K rpm at 60 MPH is about what my 4th gear is on my non-OD tranny. &=
nbsp; I would have thought that the Miata 5th gear might have been =E2=
=80=9Cdirect=E2=80=9D, like the TR=E2=80=99s 4th. And 6th would be some sort=
of overdrive. <div><br></div><div>Without having 20-30% overdrive then=
there is no great advantage to the Miata unit!</div><div><br></div><div>-To=
ny<br><div><div><div><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my 1837 Babbage Analytic=
al Engine</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 2, 2020=
, at 2:40 PM, Bryan Loy <<a href=3D"mailto:paradisemusicnc@gmail.com"; tar=
get=3D"_blank">paradisemusicnc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote>=
</div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr">A=
s far as gear ratios go, I can't say, numbers wise, but I have an '04 MX5 wi=
th the 6 speed, and it is low. 6th gear at 60mph, the engine is turnin=
g 3K. Pretty much 20MPH for every 1K on the tach. <div>Bryan</di=
v></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr"=
>On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 2:27 PM Anthony Rhodes <<a href=3D"mailto:spamiam=
@comcast.net" target=3D"_blank">spamiam@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br></div>=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-l=
eft-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);pad=
ding-left:1ex">It is indeed pricey. But it appears to be a complete ne=
w transmission and all the required adapter stuff ready to go. The onl=
y way it would be better as a conversion is if it retained the original spac=
e cylinder. <br>
<br>
So for a complete new modern (hopefully long life) overdrive transmission, t=
he price is not terrible.<br>
<br>
It is likely a better solution than the HVDA because those old Toyota transm=
issions may well be =E2=80=9Cused up=E2=80=9D,not just =E2=80=9Cused=E2=80=9D=
. And they are hard to find. <br>
<br>
For me, I found the right Toyota transmission to be as rare as ... as a frie=
nd of mine puts it... as rare as rocking horse manure. &nb=
sp;He may not actually have used the word =E2=80=9Cmanure=E2=80=9D. <br>
<br>
So I like this Miata option!<br>
<br>
Does anyone know the gear ratios? The Moss description does not indica=
te the ratios. <br>
<br>
-Tony<br>
<br>
Sent from my 1837 Babbage Analytical Engine<br>
<br>
> On Jan 2, 2020, at 2:02 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-request@autox.te=
am.net" target=3D"_blank">triumphs-request@autox.team.net</a> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Message: 1<br>
> Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2020 13:54:49 -0600<br>
> From: Dean Mericas <<a href=3D"mailto:dmericas@gmail.com"; target=3D"=
_blank">dmericas@gmail.com</a>><br>
> To: <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">triump=
hs@autox.team.net</a><br>
> Subject: [TR] Experience with Vitesse 5-speed transmission conversion?<=
br>
> Message-ID: <<a href=3D"mailto:3D51629D-3D80-44B6-9EEF-01C3BD216362@=
gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">3D51629D-3D80-44B6-9EEF-01C3BD216362@gmail.com<=
/a>><br>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dutf-8<br>
> <br>
> I see that Moss now carries an a 5-speed transmission conversion that a=
ppears to use Miata internals in a custom case and bell housing. It isn?t ch=
eap, but as an apparent drop in replacement I think the installed cost may b=
e about the same as the Toyota-based HVDA kit.<br>
> <br>
> Does anyone on the list have first hand experience with this particular=
conversion?<br>
> <br>
> Thanks. <br>
> <br>
> Dean Mericas<br>
> 1965 TR4<br>
> Austin, TX<br>
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