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Paint has been covered so many time on the lists over the years...I'm
surprised more haven't already chimed in.
I confident there are arguments about which color was avail on what
years... and even my own data is/may be in question in some situations.
My own color pages were designed to show the DIFFERENCE in the named
colors. (not be absolute representations via the photos)
Regardless....?? white, Sebring, Leyland, Spa and Pearl white all have
PPG codes on the page.? Right or wrong.... these are what have been
identified over the years.
Whether they were used on earlier cars or not I have no clue as I was
working Spits/GT6 eras.
http://www.teglerizer.com/triumphcolors/#White%20color
Of course, any color mixed today is NOT going to be a match on your
car.? Chemical differences (then? and now) in paints, sun fade, weather
effects etc have all changed these 40+ year old colors.
ptegler
On 10/8/2019 3:35 PM, Gene M wrote:
> John,
>
> I took a look this morning at my TR6 books.? Bentley repair manual
> does show a color code in the SN for white.? I was not able to get any
> information to match a factory white 40 years ago.? PPG looked through
> all of their books and the only formula they could find was the Jaguar
> white, which what I went with.
>
> My Brooklands Book Gold Portfolio which is a compilation of magazine
> articles and advertisements had no paint information and I couldn't
> find any article that had information on colors or paint type.
>
> I did not mean to imply that different color body panels were used by
> the factory and then repainted.? My point was that my car, and all
> other cars I pulled parts from over the years were pieced together
> from wrecks.? I was never able to locate a salvage yard in Sacramento,
> CA that had white TR6 body panels.? I also could never find an intact
> left rear tail light assembly with all lenses still good--until
> someone told me about TRF and Moss Motors in the 1980's.
>
> Were the TR6 painted with lacquer, and did the paint shop spray the
> assembled cars before the engine was dropped in or were the panels
> already painted?? The sequence of articles in the Brooklands Book
> indicates there were probably manufacturing changes over the years
> since 1969.
>
> I am attaching 2 pics of the "square threaded" bolts that attached my
> body panels.? Can anyone identify?? If helpful, I will take some
> measurements and thread count--not to find a replacement, but to
> answer an issue that I encountered over 40 years ago.
>
> <edited original post>
>
> In the ten years I worked at StandardTriumph in Coventry (1965-1975) I
> would comment as follows:
>
> 1. White was always available as an original colour on all models with
> tan, black or red trim.
>
> 3. If I?ve read the post correctly, it seems you feel body panels were
> a sort of pick and mix in any colour before final painting? No way!
> All bodies for all markets and all models came out of the body shop in
> white undercoat prior to going through the paint shop in colour
> batches, with cars in black being painted only on Friday afternoons.
> This was intentional as Black was not a popular colour and allowed the
> spray lines to be flushed through prior to paint shop cleaning over
> the weekend.
>
>
>
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<p>Paint has been covered so many time on the lists over the
years...I'm surprised more haven't already chimed in.</p>
<p>I confident there are arguments about which color was avail on
what years... and even my own data is/may be in question in some
situations.</p>
<p>My own color pages were designed to show the DIFFERENCE in the
named colors. (not be absolute representations via the photos)</p>
<p>Regardless....?? white, Sebring, Leyland, Spa and Pearl white all
have PPG codes on the page.? Right or wrong.... these are what
have been identified over the years.<br>
</p>
<p>Whether they were used on earlier cars or not I have no clue as I
was working Spits/GT6 eras.</p>
<p><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.teglerizer.com/triumphcolors/#White%20color";>http://www.teglerizer.com/triumphcolors/#White%20color</a></p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Of course, any color mixed today is NOT going to be a match on
your car.? Chemical differences (then? and now) in paints, sun
fade, weather effects etc have all changed these 40+ year old
colors.<br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>ptegler<br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/8/2019 3:35 PM, Gene M wrote:<br>
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<div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<span style="color: rgb(32, 31, 30); font-family: "Segoe
UI", "Segoe UI Web (West European)",
"Segoe UI", -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont,
Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size:
14.6667px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display:
inline !important">I took a look this morning at my TR6
books.? Bentley repair manual does show a color code in the SN
for white.? I was not able to get any information to match a
factory white 40 years ago.? PPG looked through all of their
books and the only formula they could find was the Jaguar
white, which what I went with.??</span></div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<span style="color: rgb(32, 31, 30); font-family: "Segoe
UI", "Segoe UI Web (West European)",
"Segoe UI", -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont,
Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size:
14.6667px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display:
inline !important"><br>
</span></div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<span style="color: rgb(32, 31, 30); font-family: "Segoe
UI", "Segoe UI Web (West European)",
"Segoe UI", -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont,
Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size:
14.6667px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display:
inline !important">My Brooklands Book Gold Portfolio which is
a compilation of magazine articles and advertisements had no
paint information and I couldn't find any article that had
information on colors or paint type.</span></div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<br>
</div>
<div style=""><font color="#201f1e"><span style="font-size:
14.6667px;">I did not mean to imply that different color
body panels were used by the factory and then repainted.? My
point was that my car, and all other cars I pulled parts
from over the years were pieced together from wrecks.? I was
never able to locate a salvage yard in Sacramento, CA that
had white TR6 body panels.? I also could never find an
intact left rear tail light assembly with all lenses still
good--until someone told me about TRF and Moss Motors in the
1980's.</span></font></div>
<div style=""><font color="#201f1e"><br>
<div style="font-size: 16px; margin: 0px; font-family:
"Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Web (West
European)", "Segoe UI", -apple-system,
BlinkMacSystemFont, Roboto, "Helvetica Neue",
sans-serif; color: rgb(50, 49, 48);">
<font color="#201f1e"><span style="margin: 0px; font-size:
14.6667px">Were the TR6 painted with lacquer, and did
the paint shop spray the assembled cars before the
engine was dropped in or were the panels already
painted?? The sequence of articles in the Brooklands
Book indicates there were probably manufacturing changes
over the years since 1969.??</span></font></div>
<div style="font-size: 16px; margin: 0px; font-family:
"Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Web (West
European)", "Segoe UI", -apple-system,
BlinkMacSystemFont, Roboto, "Helvetica Neue",
sans-serif; color: rgb(50, 49, 48);">
<font color="#201f1e"><span style="margin: 0px; font-size:
14.6667px"><br>
</span></font></div>
<div style="font-size: 16px; margin: 0px; font-family:
"Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Web (West
European)", "Segoe UI", -apple-system,
BlinkMacSystemFont, Roboto, "Helvetica Neue",
sans-serif; color: rgb(50, 49, 48);">
<font color="#201f1e"><span style="margin: 0px; font-size:
14.6667px">I am attaching 2 pics of the "square
threaded" bolts that attached my body panels.? Can
anyone identify?? If helpful, I will take some
measurements and thread count--not to find a
replacement, but to answer an issue that I encountered
over 40 years ago.??</span></font></div>
<div style="font-size: 16px; margin: 0px; font-family:
"Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Web (West
European)", "Segoe UI", -apple-system,
BlinkMacSystemFont, Roboto, "Helvetica Neue",
sans-serif; color: rgb(50, 49, 48);">
<span style="color: rgb(32, 31, 30); font-family:
"Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Web (West
European)", "Segoe UI", -apple-system,
BlinkMacSystemFont, Roboto, "Helvetica Neue",
sans-serif; font-size: 14.6667px;"><br>
</span></div>
<div style="margin: 0px; font-family: "Segoe UI",
"Segoe UI Web (West European)", "Segoe
UI", -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Roboto,
"Helvetica Neue", sans-serif;">
<span style="font-size: 14.6667px;"><edited original
post></span></div>
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"Segoe UI Web (West European)", "Segoe
UI", -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Roboto,
"Helvetica Neue", sans-serif;">
<span style="font-size: 14.6667px;"><br>
</span></div>
</font></div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<span style="color: rgb(32, 31, 30); font-family: "Segoe
UI", "Segoe UI Web (West European)",
"Segoe UI", -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont,
Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size:
14.6667px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display:
inline !important">In the ten years I worked at
StandardTriumph in Coventry (1965-1975) I would comment as
follows:</span><br style="color: rgb(32, 31, 30); font-family:
"Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Web (West
European)", "Segoe UI", -apple-system,
BlinkMacSystemFont, Roboto, "Helvetica Neue",
sans-serif; font-size: 14.6667px; background-color: rgb(255,
255, 255)">
<br style="color: rgb(32, 31, 30); font-family: "Segoe
UI", "Segoe UI Web (West European)",
"Segoe UI", -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont,
Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size:
14.6667px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255)">
<span style="color: rgb(32, 31, 30); font-family: "Segoe
UI", "Segoe UI Web (West European)",
"Segoe UI", -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont,
Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size:
14.6667px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display:
inline !important">1. White was always available as an
original colour on all models with tan, black or red trim.</span><br
style="color: rgb(32, 31, 30); font-family: "Segoe
UI", "Segoe UI Web (West European)",
"Segoe UI", -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont,
Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size:
14.6667px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255)">
<br style="color: rgb(32, 31, 30); font-family: "Segoe
UI", "Segoe UI Web (West European)",
"Segoe UI", -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont,
Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size:
14.6667px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255)">
<span style="color: rgb(32, 31, 30); font-family: "Segoe
UI", "Segoe UI Web (West European)",
"Segoe UI", -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont,
Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size:
14.6667px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display:
inline !important">3. If I?ve read the post correctly, it
seems you feel body panels were a sort of pick and mix in any
colour before final painting? No way! All bodies for all
markets and all models came out of the body shop in white
undercoat prior to going through the paint shop in colour
batches, with cars in black being painted only on Friday
afternoons. This was intentional as Black was not a popular
colour and allowed the spray lines to be flushed through prior
to paint shop cleaning over the weekend.</span><br
style="color: rgb(32, 31, 30); font-family: "Segoe
UI", "Segoe UI Web (West European)",
"Segoe UI", -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont,
Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size:
14.6667px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255)">
<br style="color: rgb(32, 31, 30); font-family: "Segoe
UI", "Segoe UI Web (West European)",
"Segoe UI", -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont,
Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size:
14.6667px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255)">
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