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Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question

To: James Henningsen <trguy75@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question
From: John Macartney <John.Macartney@Ukpips.org.uk>
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 10:12:40 +0100
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What year did Canada switch from miles to Kilometres? Normal practice for ch=
anging legislation was for the new requirement to be built in to the car at l=
east one calendar year in advance. This did not necessarily apply to US Fede=
ral specs because they often were not confirmed until June of the previous m=
odel year. That said, when Sweden changed its rule of the road, cars with LH=
 steer were being shipped at least three years before the change became effe=
ctive.

Jonmac

Whenever I feel the need for exercise, experience has shown me it is better t=
o lie down until the feeling goes away. WINSTON CHURCHILL

> On 6 Sep 2019, at 00:09, James Henningsen <trguy75@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> Just found out it was bought new in Canada.   I dont have a TR7 factory pa=
rts manual.  Did Canadian market tr7s cone with a 140 speedo or would they h=
ave been kilometers?? =20
> Any help greatly appreciated=20
> Jim Henningsen=20
>=20
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 5, 2019, at 11:27 AM, Randall <tr3driver@ca.rr.com> wrote:
>>=20
>> Could it have been originally delivered n another country? Maybe Canada, o=
r a "self-import" from the UK.
>>=20
>> I found a Coventry-made tractor on Craigslist, some little town in Indian=
a, even though North American versions were supposed to be built in Dearborn=
. No idea how it got there, but seems to be the real deal.
>> -- Randall
>>=20
>>> On 4 September 2019 19:38:23 GMT-05:00, Jim Henningsen <trguy75@gmail.co=
m> wrote:
>>> Thanks all for the feedback.  I was pretty sure 85 was the max speedo li=
mit on those.  The seller of an 81 tr7 is claiming 6000 orig miles and it lo=
oks like it judging by the one year only velour but the speedo is a 140 so I=
 question the validity despite the condition.=20
>>> Jim
>>>=20
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>=20
>>>> On Sep 4, 2019, at 7:56 PM, Stan Foster <stan@redtr6.com> wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>> Aha!. I recall with my old Morris 1000 the speedo topped out at 80mph b=
ut there was no stop for the speedo needle so the old joke was doing "half a=
 tank" downhill as the fuel gauge was inset at the bottom of the speedo gaug=
e. Half a tank would be around 100mph.
>>>> From: Darrell Walker <darrellw360@mac.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 7:46:11 PM
>>>> To: Stan Foster <stan@redtr6.com>
>>>> Cc: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question
>>>> =20
>>>>=20
>>>> The display was limited.  Meaning 85 was the highest number allowed to d=
isplay.  The regulation also required that 55 be called out in some fashion.=
  Note that some makers put tick marks beyond 85, just without any numbers.
>>>>=20
>>>>> On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:41 PM, Stan Foster <stan@redtr6.com> wrote:
>>>>>=20
>>>>> What method was used to limit the TR7 speed to 85mph ?
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Stan
>>>>> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Darrell W=
alker <darrellw360@mac.com>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 7:27:31 PM
>>>>> To: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question
>>>>> =20
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> > On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Darrell Walker <darrellw360@mac.com> wro=
te:
>>>>> >=20
>>>>> >=20
>>>>> > By the way, the regulation was enacted on September 1, 1979, and eli=
minated on October 22, 1981.  I believe any US market 81 cars were produced t=
hat late.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> I meant to say =E2=80=9CI doubt any US market 81 cars were produced th=
at late=E2=80=9D.
>>>>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">What year did Canada switch from miles to K=
ilometres? Normal practice for changing legislation was for the new requirem=
ent to be built in to the car at least one calendar year in advance. This di=
d not necessarily apply to US Federal specs because they often were not conf=
irmed until June of the previous model year. That said, when Sweden changed i=
ts rule of the road, cars with LH steer were being shipped at least three ye=
ars before the change became effective.<div><br></div><div>Jonmac<br><br><di=
v id=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Whenever I feel the need for exercis=
e, experience has shown me it is better to lie down until the feeling goes a=
way. WINSTON CHURCHILL</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On 6 Sep 2019, at 00:09, Ja=
mes Henningsen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:trguy75@gmail.com";>trguy75@gmail.com</a=
>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><meta h=
ttp-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">Just found=
 out it was bought new in Canada. &nbsp; I dont have a TR7 factory parts man=
ual. &nbsp;Did Canadian market tr7s cone with a 140 speedo or would they hav=
e been kilometers?? &nbsp;<div>Any help greatly appreciated&nbsp;</div><div>=
Jim Henningsen&nbsp;<br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Sent f=
rom my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Sep 5, 2019, at 11:27 AM, Randall=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tr3driver@ca.rr.com";>tr3driver@ca.rr.com</a>&gt; wrot=
e:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><meta http-equiv=3D=
"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">Could it have been ori=
ginally delivered n another country? Maybe Canada, or a "self-import" from t=
he UK.<br><br>I found a Coventry-made tractor on Craigslist, some little tow=
n in Indiana, even though North American versions were supposed to be built i=
n Dearborn. No idea how it got there, but seems to be the real deal.<br>-- R=
andall<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 4 September 2019 19:38:23 GMT-05=
:00, Jim Henningsen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:trguy75@gmail.com";>trguy75@gmail.c=
om</a>&gt; wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0=
pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Thanks all for the feedback. &nbsp;I was pretty sure 85 was the max speedo l=
imit on those. &nbsp;The seller of an 81 tr7 is claiming 6000 orig miles and=
 it looks like it judging by the one year only velour but the speedo is a 14=
0 so I question the validity despite the condition.&nbsp;<div>Jim<br><br><di=
v id=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPad</div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br>On Sep 4, 2019, at 7:56 PM, Stan Foster &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:stan@r=
edtr6.com">stan@redtr6.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><div dir=3D"ltr">

<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3DWindows-12=
52">


<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"direction: ltr; margin: 0; padding: 0; font-famil=
y: sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: black; ">
Aha!. I recall with my old Morris 1000 the speedo topped out at 80mph but th=
ere was no stop for the speedo needle so the old joke was doing "half a tank=
" downhill as the fuel gauge was inset at the bottom of the speedo gauge. Ha=
lf a tank would be around 100mph.
</div>
<hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%" tabindex=3D"-1">
<div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" sty=
le=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Darrell Walker &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:darrellw360@mac.com";>darrellw360@mac.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 4, 2019 7:46:11 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Stan Foster &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:stan@redtr6.com";>stan@redtr6.co=
m</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@=
autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question</font>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
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The display was limited. &nbsp;Meaning 85 was the highest number allowed to d=
isplay. &nbsp;The regulation also required that 55 be called out in some fas=
hion. &nbsp;Note that some makers put tick marks beyond 85, just without any=
 numbers.<br class=3D"">
<div><br class=3D"">
<blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:41 PM, Stan Foster &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:stan@redtr6.com" class=3D"">stan@redtr6.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
<br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline">
<div class=3D"">
<div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 1=
2px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; let=
ter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: no=
ne; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; t=
ext-decoration: none;" class=3D"">
<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"direction: ltr; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; font-f=
amily: sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;" class=3D"">
What method was used to limit the TR7 speed to 85mph ?<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"direction: ltr; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; font-f=
amily: sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;" class=3D"">
Stan</div>
<hr tabindex=3D"-1" style=3D"display: inline-block; width: 939.8125px;" clas=
s=3D"">
<div id=3D"x_divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><font face=3D"Calibri, sa=
ns-serif" style=3D"font-size: 11pt;" class=3D""><b class=3D"">From:</b><span=
 class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net" class=3D"">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net=
</a>&gt;
 on behalf of Darrell Walker &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:darrellw360@mac.com"; clas=
s=3D"">darrellw360@mac.com</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">
<b class=3D"">Sent:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>We=
dnesday, September 4, 2019 7:27:31 PM<br class=3D"">
<b class=3D"">To:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Triu=
mphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; class=3D"">triumphs@auto=
x.team.net</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">
<b class=3D"">Subject:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span=
>Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question</font>
<div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div>
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&gt; On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Darrell Walker &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:darrel=
lw360@mac.com" class=3D"">darrellw360@mac.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D"">
&gt;<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br class=3D"">
&gt;<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br class=3D"">
&gt; By the way, the regulation was enacted on September 1, 1979, and elimin=
ated on October 22, 1981.&nbsp; I believe any US market 81 cars were produce=
d that late.<br class=3D"">
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I meant to say =E2=80=9CI doubt any US market 81 cars were produced that lat=
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