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The Stag and TR7 are problematic for a couple of reasons.=C2=A0 One is you=
have an aluminum head on a cast iron block.=C2=A0 Another is that there ar=
e steel studs running though holes in the aluminum head and the reaction of=
dis-similar metals can be ugly.=C2=A0 The third problem is that the studs =
don't all run parallel and the head does not just lift off of them as does =
the heads on earlier TR's.
The Triumph Wedge club has a loaner head puller designed for TR7's which ma=
y work on both sides on the Stag.=C2=A0=20
Furthermore, these engines have overhead cams and unless you remove the cam=
before trying the Rope Trick Thingy you run the chance of bending a valve =
if it happens to be open at the time.=C2=A0=20
Another day of living the dream.
=20
Dave=20
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-----Original Message-----
From: Randall <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>
To: Paul Dorsey <dorpaul1@gmail.com>; Triumph list Team. net <triumphs@auto=
x.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Sep 3, 2019 1:10 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] rope trick thingy
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614WordSection1 {} #yiv8329242614 The =E2=80=9Crope trick=E2=80=9D is for e=
mergencies, when you just can=E2=80=99t get the head off any other way.=C2=
=A0 In that case, chances are good that the liners are so stuck they don=E2=
=80=99t need to be retained.=C2=A0 But also, IMO, if it=E2=80=99s that bad,=
it=E2=80=99s time to pull the liners anyway (in which case they don=E2=80=
=99t need to be retained either). =C2=A0I=E2=80=99ve taken apart some prett=
y sad TR3 motors, and never had to resort to the =E2=80=9Crope trick=E2=80=
=9D. =C2=A0Getting the head off a Stag or TR7 can be a real challenge, but =
the TR3 has never been a problem for me. =C2=A0- Randall =C2=A0From: Paul D=
orsey
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 9:38 PM
To: Me; Triumph list Team.net
Subject: [TR] rope trick thingy =C2=A0Is the rope trick the thing where you=
put the rope in the cylinder down the spark=C2=A0 plug hole and then turn =
the engine so that the piston breaks the head gasket seal?=C2=A0 I thought =
someone said not to turn over the engine? =C2=A0** triumphs@autox.team.net =
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<div> <font size=3D"3">The Stag and TR7 are problematic for a couple of rea=
sons. One is you have an aluminum head on a cast iron block. An=
other is that there are steel studs running though holes in the aluminum he=
ad and the reaction of dis-similar metals can be ugly. The third prob=
lem is that the studs don't all run parallel and the head does not just lif=
t off of them as does the heads on earlier TR's.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"3"><br>
</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"3">The Triumph Wedge club has a loaner head puller desig=
ned for TR7's which may work on both sides on the Stag. <br>
</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"3"><br>
</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"3">Furthermore, these engines have overhead cams and unl=
ess you remove the cam before trying the Rope Trick Thingy you run the chan=
ce of bending a valve if it happens to be open at the time. <br>
</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"3"><br>
</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"3">Another day of living the dream.</font><br>
</div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br>
<br>
</div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div> <br>
</div>
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Original Message-----<br>
From: Randall <tr3driver@ca.rr.com><br>
To: Paul Dorsey <dorpaul1@gmail.com>; Triumph list Team. net <triu=
mphs@autox.team.net><br>
Sent: Tue, Sep 3, 2019 1:10 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] rope trick thingy<br>
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<div class=3D"yiv8329242614MsoNormal">The =E2=80=9Crope trick=E2=80=9D is f=
or emergencies, when you just can=E2=80=99t get the head off any other way.=
In that case, chances are good that the liners are so stuck they don=
=E2=80=99t need to be retained. But also, IMO, if it=E2=80=99s that b=
ad, it=E2=80=99s time to pull the liners anyway (in which case they don=E2=
=80=99t need to be retained either).</div>
<div class=3D"yiv8329242614MsoNormal"> </div>
<div class=3D"yiv8329242614MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99ve taken apart some pretty =
sad TR3 motors, and never had to resort to the =E2=80=9Crope trick=E2=80=9D=
. Getting the head off a Stag or TR7 can be a real challenge, but the=
TR3 has never been a problem for me.</div>
<div class=3D"yiv8329242614MsoNormal"> </div>
<div class=3D"yiv8329242614MsoNormal">- Randall</div>
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dorpaul1@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:dorpaul1@gmail.com";>Pa=
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<div class=3D"yiv8329242614MsoNormal"> </div>
<div class=3D"yiv8329242614MsoNormal">Is the rope trick the thing where you=
put the rope in the cylinder down the spark plug hole and then turn =
the engine so that the piston breaks the head gasket seal? I thought =
someone said not to turn over the engine?</div>
</div>
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