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Subject: [TR] Fwd: TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs
From: Greg Lemon <grglmn@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2019 18:10:13 -0500
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RE: Adjusting front camber, can't you do the with the shims that mount
between lower a-arms and the frame?

Also agree the rear sounds like a shock problem.

Greg Lemon
TR250

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Jerry Van Vlack <jerryvv@roadrunner.com>
Date: Mon, Sep 2, 2019, 5:15 AM
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs
To: G.D. Huggins <gdhuggins@genfiniti.com>, Triumph Mailing List <
triumphs@autox.team.net>


I agree with Mark, focus on shocks and rear shock links especially. I once
broke a rear shock link and the car bounced badly. I'd stay away from rear
tube conversions, those upgraded rear lever shocks you're ordering will
work
just fine. If the new shocks don't fix the issues and you still want to
replace springs I'd suggest buying the Goodparts set offered for a TR6
along
with spacers to regain original height. If you decide to go lower you'll
have front and rear camber issues to deal with. Goodparts rear trailing arm
brackets will allow you to regain correct camber but the front will go to
too much negative camber. The only way to correct the front is to somehow
modify the upper A-arms or buy one of the English suppliers kits for upper
A-arm adjustment. My guess is your springs are just fine and you'll find
your problem is associated with the rear shocks and or shock links.
Goodparts also makes an excellent replacement shock link kit too. Let us
know how it works out.

JVV

-----Original Message-----
From: G.D. Huggins
Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2019 10:45 PM
To: Triumph Mailing List
Subject: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs

All,

After almost eight years of driving bliss, with just under 18K miles, it's
time to replace what I suspect are the original road springs.
The car has gotten way too bouncy, especially in the rear.  Take a curve on
a rough road, and it rear steers something awful. losing its contact with
the road, as if the spring is not forcing the wheel back down quickly
enough.
As far as shocks go, I=E2=80=99ve got Spax adjustable up front, and just or=
dered
some heavy duty Armstrongs from Apple Hydraulics for the rear.

I=E2=80=99ve gotten into some research, and everything seems to be pointing=
 toward
three grades of stiffness; original, uprated and competition.
I am leaning toward the =E2=80=9Cuprated=E2=80=9D variety to stiffen the ri=
de, but I want
to
keep stock height to not effect wheel camber.

Any experienced-based suggestions?

Thanks in advance.


Cheers,

Guy D. Huggins
1965 Triumph TR4A
CTC 63569LO

Online project diary at http://www.genfiniti.com/triumph





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<div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto"></div>RE: Adjusting front camber, can&#=
39;t you do the with the shims that mount between lower a-arms and the fram=
e?<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Also agree the rear sounds =
like a shock problem.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Gr=
eg Lemon</div><div dir=3D"auto">TR250</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div=
 dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gmail_quote" dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr" clas=
s=3D"gmail_attr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: <strong cl=
ass=3D"gmail_sendername" dir=3D"auto">Jerry Van Vlack</strong> <span dir=3D=
"auto">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jerryvv@roadrunner.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"noreferrer">jerryvv@roadrunner.com</a>&gt;</span><br>Date: Mon, Sep 2, =
2019, 5:15 AM<br>Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs<br>To=
: G.D. Huggins &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gdhuggins@genfiniti.com"; target=3D"_bl=
ank" rel=3D"noreferrer">gdhuggins@genfiniti.com</a>&gt;, Triumph Mailing Li=
st &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"=
noreferrer">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br></div><br><br>I agree with M=
ark, focus on shocks and rear shock links especially. I once <br>
broke a rear shock link and the car bounced badly. I&#39;d stay away from r=
ear <br>
tube conversions, those upgraded rear lever shocks you&#39;re ordering will=
 work <br>
just fine. If the new shocks don&#39;t fix the issues and you still want to=
 <br>
replace springs I&#39;d suggest buying the Goodparts set offered for a TR6 =
along <br>
with spacers to regain original height. If you decide to go lower you&#39;l=
l <br>
have front and rear camber issues to deal with. Goodparts rear trailing arm=
 <br>
brackets will allow you to regain correct camber but the front will go to <=
br>
too much negative camber. The only way to correct the front is to somehow <=
br>
modify the upper A-arms or buy one of the English suppliers kits for upper =
<br>
A-arm adjustment. My guess is your springs are just fine and you&#39;ll fin=
d <br>
your problem is associated with the rear shocks and or shock links. <br>
Goodparts also makes an excellent replacement shock link kit too. Let us <b=
r>
know how it works out.<br>
<br>
JVV<br>
<br>
-----Original Message----- <br>
From: G.D. Huggins<br>
Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2019 10:45 PM<br>
To: Triumph Mailing List<br>
Subject: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs<br>
<br>
All,<br>
<br>
After almost eight years of driving bliss, with just under 18K miles, it&#3=
9;s <br>
time to replace what I suspect are the original road springs.<br>
The car has gotten way too bouncy, especially in the rear.=C2=A0 Take a cur=
ve on <br>
a rough road, and it rear steers something awful. losing its contact with <=
br>
the road, as if the spring is not forcing the wheel back down quickly <br>
enough.<br>
As far as shocks go, I=E2=80=99ve got Spax adjustable up front, and just or=
dered <br>
some heavy duty Armstrongs from Apple Hydraulics for the rear.<br>
<br>
I=E2=80=99ve gotten into some research, and everything seems to be pointing=
 toward <br>
three grades of stiffness; original, uprated and competition.<br>
I am leaning toward the =E2=80=9Cuprated=E2=80=9D variety to stiffen the ri=
de, but I want to <br>
keep stock height to not effect wheel camber.<br>
<br>
Any experienced-based suggestions?<br>
<br>
Thanks in advance.<br>
<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
Guy D. Huggins<br>
1965 Triumph TR4A<br>
CTC 63569LO<br>
<br>
Online project diary at <a href=3D"http://www.genfiniti.com/triumph"; rel=3D=
"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.genfiniti.c=
om/triumph</a><br>
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