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Re: [TR] Radiator Shroud

To: don.hiscock@gmail.com, terryrs@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Radiator Shroud
From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 11:43:13 +0000 (UTC)
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
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although possibly with more risk of radiator damage in a small bump
 The pre-58 TR3's had just such a feature as part of the nose sheetmetal fr=
om the outset.=C2=A0 And since there is a bottom shelf there already the ad=
dition of these doesn't seem to me to add appreciably to the risk to the ra=
diator.

And you're right, they do look like they could be fabricated by a rank amat=
eur with access to a sheetmetal brake such as myself.=C2=A0 But then, my 57=
 doesn't need need these since it came from the factory with sheetmetal duc=
twork right up the sides of the radiator.=C2=A0 But I'm pretty proud of the=
 sheetmetal fan shroud I made for the TR6.
Thanks for sharing.
=20
Dave=20

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-----Original Message-----
From: Don Hiscock <don.hiscock@gmail.com>
To: TERRY SMITH <terryrs@comcast.net>
Cc: triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Jul 24, 2019 9:45 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Radiator Shroud

VHP 529, an Apple Green ex-works TR3A, is owned by a friend of mine in the =
UK.=C2=A0 (He just returned from the 2019 TR Register Li=C3=A8ge-Brescia-Li=
=C3=A8ge Rally, for those who have followed that -- in fact there were seve=
ral American sidescreen cars in Europe for that event, possibly corresponde=
nts on here?)https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-jR7PQ3n/0/bb5ff095/O/i-jR7=
PQ3n.jpg

The car has original works competition aluminum air deflectors inside the s=
hroud.=C2=A0 I've always liked these -- seems like a better design than the=
 crappy paperboard production version, although possibly with more risk of =
radiator damage in a small bump than with cardboard.=C2=A0 They don't look =
like they'd be hard to fab were one so inclined.https://photos.smugmug.com/=
photos/i-hxbzKSs/0/6c5a7e69/O/i-hxbzKSs.jpg
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-mPG4VQX/0/0e755b25/O/i-mPG4VQX.jpg

Don1962 TR3B TSF202L

On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 8:48 PM TERRY SMITH <terryrs@comcast.net> wrote:

 When I restored the '3, I put in the usual cardboard shroud.=C2=A0 It last=
ed--I don't know--maybe three years?=C2=A0 Got caught several times in hard=
 rain.=C2=A0 Next, I bought another cardboard shroud, but this time I used =
the plastic from a garage sale shower wall.=C2=A0 It lasted--I don't know--=
maybe five years, then cracked apart.=C2=A0=20

While installing a new electric fan, I took the time while I was in there t=
o use the cardboard shroud to trace out a shroud using this time a floor ma=
t I'd had around that goes underneath a chair on a hardwood floor (no littl=
e spikes on the bottom).=C2=A0 In this heat, the floor mat was entirely fle=
xible and bent easily, though it won't at lower temps.=C2=A0 Couple of scre=
ws to hold it down and done is done.

Looking forward to seeing how it does.=C2=A0 Gotta be better than cardboard=
.=C2=A0=20
Meanwhile, with all these car mods, I'm thinking I could have been an engin=
eer.=C2=A0 Just needed two things:=C2=A0 1)=C2=A0 more brains; and 3) more =
gray matter....

:o)
Terry Smith, '59 TR3A
New Hampshire



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<div>  <font size=3D"3">The pre-58 TR3's had just such a feature as part of=
 the nose sheetmetal from the outset.&nbsp; And since there is a bottom she=
lf there already the addition of these doesn't seem to me to add appreciabl=
y to the risk to the radiator.<br>
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<div><font size=3D"3">And you're right, they do look like they could be fab=
ricated by a rank amateur with access to a sheetmetal brake such as myself.=
&nbsp; But then, my 57 doesn't need need these since it came from the facto=
ry with sheetmetal ductwork right up the sides of the radiator.&nbsp; But I=
'm pretty proud of the sheetmetal fan shroud I made for the TR6.</font></di=
v>

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<div><font size=3D"3">Thanks for sharing.<br>
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<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br>
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Original Message-----<br>
From: Don Hiscock &lt;don.hiscock@gmail.com&gt;<br>
To: TERRY SMITH &lt;terryrs@comcast.net&gt;<br>
Cc: triumphs &lt;triumphs@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
Sent: Wed, Jul 24, 2019 9:45 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] Radiator Shroud<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">VHP 529, an Apple Green ex-works TR3A, is owned by a frien=
d of mine in the UK.&nbsp; (He just returned from the 2019 TR Register Li=
=C3=A8ge-Brescia-Li=C3=A8ge Rally, for those who have followed that -- in f=
act there were several American sidescreen cars in Europe for that event, p=
ossibly correspondents on here?)
<div><a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-jR7PQ3n/0/bb5ff095/O/i-jR7PQ3n.jpg"=
>https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-jR7PQ3n/0/bb5ff095/O/i-jR7PQ3n.jpg</a>=
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<div>The car has original works competition aluminum air deflectors inside =
the shroud.&nbsp; I've always liked these -- seems like a better design tha=
n the crappy paperboard production version, although possibly with more ris=
k of radiator damage in a small bump than with cardboard.&nbsp; They don't =
look like they'd be hard to fab were one so inclined.</div>

<div><a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-hxbzKSs/0/6c5a7e69/O/i-hxbzKSs.jpg"=
>https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-hxbzKSs/0/6c5a7e69/O/i-hxbzKSs.jpg</a>=
<br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div><a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-mPG4VQX/0/0e755b25/O/i-mPG4VQX.jpg"=
>https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-mPG4VQX/0/0e755b25/O/i-mPG4VQX.jpg</a>=
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<div>Don</div>

<div>1962 TR3B TSF202L</div>

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<div class=3D"yiv9216344347gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at =
8:48 PM TERRY SMITH &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymail=
to=3D"mailto:terryrs@comcast.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:terryrs@=
comcast.net">terryrs@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div>
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0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"><u></u>

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<div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51);">When I restored the '3, I put in the usual cardboard shrou=
d.&nbsp; It lasted--I don't know--maybe three years?&nbsp; Got caught sever=
al times in hard rain.&nbsp; Next, I bought another cardboard shroud, but t=
his time I used the plastic from a garage sale shower wall.&nbsp; It lasted=
--I don't know--maybe five years, then cracked apart.&nbsp; <br clear=3D"no=
ne"></div>

<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51);"><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51);">While installing a new electric fan, I took the time while=
 I was in there to use the cardboard shroud to trace out a shroud using thi=
s time a floor mat I'd had around that goes underneath a chair on a hardwoo=
d floor (no little spikes on the bottom).&nbsp; In this heat, the floor mat=
 was entirely flexible and bent easily, though it won't at lower temps.&nbs=
p; Couple of screws to hold it down and done is done.<br clear=3D"none"></d=
iv>

<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51);"><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51);">Looking forward to seeing how it does.&nbsp; Gotta be bett=
er than cardboard.&nbsp; </div>

<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51);"><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51);">Meanwhile, with all these car mods, I'm thinking I could h=
ave been an engineer.&nbsp; Just needed two things:&nbsp; 1)&nbsp; more bra=
ins; and 3) more gray matter....<br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51);"><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51);">:o)<br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51);">Terry Smith, '59 TR3A<br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51);">New Hampshire<br clear=3D"none"></div>
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