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Re: [TR] MGA

To: Randall <TR3driver@ca.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] MGA
From: Greg Lemon <grglmn@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 23:34:31 -0500
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Ok, I'll bite, I have never had either car, but have driven many including
autocrossing an MGA and cross country trips in a TR3.  First of all the 88
hp vs. 100 for the Triumph seems like a lot more than 12 hp.  The TRactor
engine has gobs more torque and just pulls a lot stronger, especially from
lower RPM.

As all TR fans know there are very few experiences like driving a TR3, you
feel very connected to the car, the road, and your environment.  All things
are relative, and though an MGA is still light years more connected than a
modern car it is a GT cruiser compared to the rip roaring TR3, the chassis
also feels much more sophisticated, primarily because of the rack and
pinion steering but also a more compliant ride (once again all things being
relative).

Styling is a matter of taste, but most would agree the MG is prettier if
not better.  However, my theory on price difference is that more MGAs tend
to restored to better than new museum pieces, and treated as such, while
more TRs end up being "drivers" with a few warts and modifications for
performance and/or reliability, and we all know which type of car brings
more money.

I know of plenty of exceptions to this theory and you all probably do too,
but that is my story and I will stick with it.

Greg Lemon
TR250

On Mon, Jul 15, 2019, 7:38 PM Randall <tr3driver@ca.rr.com> wrote:

> Seems to me that MGA has always held a slight edge in price. Why, I have
> no idea. Maybe it's the aluminum bonnet paired with the plywood floors :)
>
> Many years ago, I actually lost a friend because he wanted a car "like
> mine" and I mentioned an MGA for sale.
>
> I suspect the real reason has to do with the age-old question "Hey, buddy,
> Izzat a MG?" MG has the brand recognition reaching back to WWII. It's
> become synonymous with LBC (for some people).
> -- Randall
>
> On 15 July 2019 18:05:37 GMT-05:00, TERRY SMITH <terryrs@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>>
>> Just curious.  Looking at Craigslist cars, I'm seeing MGA's going for
>> more than comparable TR3's.  Maybe it's just in NH, but it does seem
>> strange that such an underpowered car as the MGA (what, 68 hp?), "triumphs"
>> in price over TR3's (at what, 100 hp?).  Plus the TR3 has bug-eyes and more
>> muscular swooping lines like a cheetah.
>>
>>
>> Not to belittle the MGA.  It's a cool car.  But TR's keep up with modern
>> traffick, and then some.
>>
>>
>> Terry Smith, '59 TR3A
>>
>> New Hampshire
>>
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<div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto">Ok, I&#39;ll bite, I have never had eit=
her car, but have driven many including autocrossing an MGA and cross count=
ry trips in a TR3.=C2=A0 First of all the 88 hp vs. 100 for the Triumph see=
ms like a lot more than 12 hp.=C2=A0 The TRactor engine has gobs more torqu=
e and just pulls a lot stronger, especially from lower RPM.</div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">As all TR fans know there are very fe=
w experiences like driving a TR3, you feel very connected to the car, the r=
oad, and your environment.=C2=A0 All things are relative, and though an MGA=
 is still light years more connected than a modern car it is a GT cruiser c=
ompared to the rip roaring TR3, the chassis also feels much more sophistica=
ted, primarily because of the rack and pinion steering but also a more comp=
liant ride (once again all things being relative).=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div di=
r=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Styling is a matter of taste, but mo=
st would agree the MG is prettier if not better.=C2=A0 However, my theory o=
n price difference is that more MGAs tend to restored to better than new mu=
seum pieces, and treated as such, while more TRs end up being &quot;drivers=
&quot; with a few warts and modifications for performance and/or reliabilit=
y, and we all know which type of car brings more money.</div><div dir=3D"au=
to"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I know of plenty of exceptions to this theo=
ry and you all probably do too, but that is my story and I will stick with =
it.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Greg Lemon</div><div=
 dir=3D"auto">TR250</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cl=
ass=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 15, 2019, 7:38 PM Randall &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:tr3driver@ca.rr.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">tr3driver@ca.=
rr.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
   =20
<div>Seems to me that MGA has always held a slight edge in price. Why, I ha=
ve no idea. Maybe it&#39;s the aluminum bonnet paired with the plywood floo=
rs :)<br><br>Many years ago, I actually lost a friend because he wanted a c=
ar &quot;like mine&quot; and I mentioned an MGA for sale.<br><br>I suspect =
the real reason has to do with the age-old question &quot;Hey, buddy, Izzat=
 a MG?&quot; MG has the brand recognition reaching back to WWII. It&#39;s b=
ecome synonymous with LBC (for some people).<br>-- Randall<br><br><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote">On 15 July 2019 18:05:37 GMT-05:00, TERRY SMITH &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:terryrs@comcast.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_=
blank">terryrs@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);pa=
dding-left:1ex">
<p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:rgb=
(51,51,51)">Just curious.=C2=A0 Looking at Craigslist cars, I&#39;m seeing =
MGA&#39;s going for more than comparable TR3&#39;s.=C2=A0 Maybe it&#39;s ju=
st in NH, but it does seem strange that such an underpowered car as the MGA=
 (what, 68 hp?), &quot;triumphs&quot; in price over TR3&#39;s (at what, 100=
 hp?).=C2=A0 Plus the TR3 has bug-eyes and more muscular swooping lines lik=
e a cheetah.=C2=A0 <br></p><p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica=
,arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br></p><p style=3D"font-size:12pt;f=
ont-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Not to belittle =
the MGA.=C2=A0 It&#39;s a cool car.=C2=A0 But TR&#39;s keep up with modern =
traffick, and then some.=C2=A0 <br></p><p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-fami=
ly:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br></p><p style=3D"font=
-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Terr=
y Smith, &#39;59 TR3A<br></p><p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helveti=
ca,arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">New Hampshire<br></p>
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