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I wouldn't blame the failure on the fact you are using silicone fluid. I'm =
not saying it wasn't the cause, but regular Dot 3/4 fluid can cause the sam=
e thing. I bought a TR3 that had been sitting for a number of years and som=
etime during its hibernation, a seal in the master cylinder failed which re=
sulted in a waterfall of brake fluid and "melted" paint underneath it. At l=
east silicone fluid won't do that! I run silicone fluid in all my Triumphs =
and have never had a problem. It doesn't overheat unless you're doing lots =
of hard braking (that means racing) which doesn't happen with street cars.
You can probably repair this with a MC repair kit instead of a new MC. But =
if you decide to order new, I'm not sure Lockheed is available anymore. I b=
elieve TRW bought Lockheed and all new MC's have TRW on them. I Have one on=
my TR6 and it works just fine.
Good luck, Joel...
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From: Philip Ethier <pethier7@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 10:14 PM
To: Triumphs
Subject: [TR] Stag master cylinder full of fluid?
My MkII Stag is the USA Stag known as "uncle jack" that was reconditioned i=
n 2009 for John Macartney's charity drive across the USA and Canada.
It has had silicone fluid in it since the rebuild. I put it up for the win=
ter. It had a full brake reservoir. In the spring, the brake reservoir wa=
s empty. The engine has not been run. There are no signs of leaks anywher=
e. Based on my experience with a Rover 2000TC many years ago, I assume all=
the fluid is in the brake servo vacuum canister.
Am I correct in assuming that I will get all the parts to repair this by or=
dering a brake master cylinder?
Ought I order the Lockheed or the TRW version to have a better chance of th=
e seals playing nicely with the DOT 5 Silicone brake fluid?
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1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue
2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red
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I wouldn't blame the failure on the fact you are using silicone fluid. I'm =
not saying it wasn't the cause, but regular Dot 3/4 fluid can cause the sam=
e thing. I bought a TR3 that had been sitting for a number of years and som=
etime during its hibernation, a
seal in the master cylinder failed which resulted in a waterfall of brake =
fluid and "melted" paint underneath it. At least silicone fluid w=
on't do that! I run silicone fluid in all my Triumphs and have never had a =
problem. It doesn't overheat unless you're
doing lots of hard braking (that means racing) which doesn't happen with s=
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You can probably repair this with a MC repair kit instead of a new MC. But =
if you decide to order new, I'm not sure Lockheed is available anymore. I b=
elieve TRW bought Lockheed and all new MC's have TRW on them. I Have one on=
my TR6 and it works just fine.</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)">My MkII Stag is the USA S=
tag known as "uncle jack" that was reconditioned in 2009 for John=
Macartney's charity drive across the USA and Canada.</span>
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<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)">It has had silicone fluid in it since the r=
ebuild. I put it up for the winter. It had a full brake reservo=
ir. In the spring, the brake reservoir was empty. The engine ha=
s not been run. There are no signs of leaks anywhere.
Based on my experience with a Rover 2000TC many years ago, I assume a=
ll the fluid is in the brake servo vacuum canister.<br>
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<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)">Am I correct in assuming that I will get al=
l the parts to repair this by ordering a brake master cylinder? &=
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<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)">Ought I order the Lockheed or the TRW versi=
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