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It's a double-edged sword.=C2=A0 If you have the correct crimper for the t=
erminals you are using you will get very good results.=C2=A0 Most $30 crimp=
ers you get from H-F don't necessarily properly fit the crimps they sell.=
=C2=A0 I bought a pair and I stopped using them since I can just pull the c=
rimps off by hand.=C2=A0 But if I use the AMP crimper here at work on the A=
MP crimps the results are as good as it gets.=C2=A0 And it's quick.=C2=A0 A=
nd consistent.=C2=A0 Same results every time.
Soldering works well - IF you know how to solder.=C2=A0 I solder pretty wel=
l, I have a lot of experience and I do it frequently when I don't have the =
proper crimper.=C2=A0 But take care that you don't linger too long and wick=
a bunch of solder up the wire creating a stress point that will fail under=
vibration.=C2=A0 And a cold solder joint is as bad as a poor crimp.
For water-proof connections solder is better with a wrap of good-quality el=
ectrical tape.=C2=A0 But the best ever is a special heat-shrink tubing that=
has hot melt glue on the ID.=C2=A0 The glue melts when the tubing is shrun=
k and forms a solid seal against all possible intrusions.=C2=A0 Not easy to=
find, however.
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Dave=20
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-----Original Message-----
From: Stan Foster <stan@redtr6.com>
To: David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com>; TR3 Triumphs <triumphs@autox.te=
am.net>
Sent: Tue, Jan 8, 2019 2:22 am
Subject: Re: [TR] [NET] Wire terminations
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65026WordSection1 {} #yiv0208165026 While there are people that claim crimp=
ing is better that solder my personal experience is that too many planets (=
wire, connector, tool, technique) have to align for the perfect crimped con=
nection and I too do the heat shrink over solder for things like spade and =
ring connectors. I also solder bullet connectors when I need to add or repl=
ace one. =C2=A0 Stan =C2=A0 From: NET <net-bounces@newenglandtriumphs.org=
> On Behalf OfDavid Friedlander via NET
Sent: Monday, January 7, 2019 2:23 PM
To: New England Triumphs <net@newenglandtriumphs.org>; TR3 Triumphs <triump=
hs@autox.team.net>
Subject: [NET] Wire terminations =C2=A0 Hey all ~ =C2=A0 Hope everyone en=
joyed their holidays and were able to=C2=A0 spend some quality time with lo=
ved ones.... =C2=A0 I've got a new wire harness for my TR3 in hand and was=
=C2=A0 wondering your thoughts for those wiresnot using bullet=C2=A0 connec=
tors, (I'll likely use the bullet crimping tool from=C2=A0 British Wire for=
that). So, for wires requiring spades, rings,=C2=A0 etc. do you suggest so=
ldering these terminals or is crimping=C2=A0 a better choice? If crimping, =
what tool have others found to=C2=A0 be reliable?=20
Thanks !! =C2=A0 Dave Friedlander '74 TR6 '59 TR3A ** triumphs@autox.team.=
net **
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<div> <font size=3D"3">It's a double-edged sword. If you have the cor=
rect crimper for the terminals you are using you will get very good results=
. Most $30 crimpers you get from H-F don't necessarily properly fit t=
he crimps they sell. I bought a pair and I stopped using them since I=
can just pull the crimps off by hand. But if I use the AMP crimper h=
ere at work on the AMP crimps the results are as good as it gets. And=
it's quick. And consistent. Same results every time.<br>
</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"3"><br>
</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"3">Soldering works well - IF you know how to solder.&nbs=
p; I solder pretty well, I have a lot of experience and I do it frequently =
when I don't have the proper crimper. But take care that you don't li=
nger too long and wick a bunch of solder up the wire creating a stress poin=
t that will fail under vibration. And a cold solder joint is as bad a=
s a poor crimp.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"3"><br>
</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"3">For water-proof connections solder is better with a w=
rap of good-quality electrical tape. But the best ever is a special h=
eat-shrink tubing that has hot melt glue on the ID. The glue melts wh=
en the tubing is shrunk and forms a solid seal against all possible intrusi=
ons. Not easy to find, however.</font><br>
</div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br>
<br>
</div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div> <br>
</div>
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Original Message-----<br>
From: Stan Foster <stan@redtr6.com><br>
To: David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com>; TR3 Triumphs <triumphs=
@autox.team.net><br>
Sent: Tue, Jan 8, 2019 2:22 am<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] [NET] Wire terminations<br>
<br>
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<div class=3D"yiv0208165026MsoNormal">While there are people that claim cri=
mping is better that solder my personal experience is that too many planets=
(wire, connector, tool, technique) have to align for the perfect crimped c=
onnection and I too do the heat shrink over solder
for things like spade and ring connectors. I also solder bullet connectors=
when I need to add or replace one.</div>
=20
<div class=3D"yiv0208165026MsoNormal"> </div>
=20
<div class=3D"yiv0208165026MsoNormal">Stan</div>
=20
<div class=3D"yiv0208165026MsoNormal"> </div>
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<div class=3D"yiv0208165026yqt0373195686" id=3D"yiv0208165026yqt01657">
<div class=3D"yiv0208165026MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> NET <net-bounces@newe=
nglandtriumphs.org> <b>On Behalf Of
</b>David Friedlander via NET<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 7, 2019 2:23 PM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> New England Triumphs <net@newenglandtriumphs.org>; TR3 Tri=
umphs <triumphs@autox.team.net><br clear=3D"none">
<b>Subject:</b> [NET] Wire terminations</div>
=20
<div class=3D"yiv0208165026MsoNormal"> </div>
=20
<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0208165026MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;">Hey=
all ~</span></div>
=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0208165026MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;"> &n=
bsp;</span></div>
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</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0208165026MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;">Hop=
e everyone enjoyed their holidays and were able to </span></div>
=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0208165026MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;">spe=
nd some quality time with loved ones....</span></div>
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</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0208165026MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;"> &n=
bsp;</span></div>
=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0208165026MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;">I'v=
e got a new wire harness for my TR3 in hand and was </span></div>
=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0208165026MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;">won=
dering your thoughts for those wires
<i>not </i>using bullet </span></div>
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<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0208165026MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;">con=
nectors, (I'll likely use the bullet crimping tool from </span></div>
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</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0208165026MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;">Bri=
tish Wire for that). So, for wires requiring spades, rings, </span></d=
iv>
=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0208165026MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;">etc=
. do you suggest soldering these terminals or is crimping </span></div=
>
=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0208165026MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;">a b=
etter choice? If crimping, what tool have others found to </span></div=
>
=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0208165026MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;">be =
reliable?</span></div>
=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0208165026MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;"><br=
clear=3D"none">
Thanks !!</span></div>
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</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0208165026MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;"> &n=
bsp;</span></div>
=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0208165026MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;">Dav=
e Friedlander</span></div>
=20
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0208165026MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;">'74=
TR6</span></div>
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</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0208165026MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;">'59=
TR3A</span></div>
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