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Re: [TR] Name that distributor (TR3)

To: wbeech <wbeech@flash.net>,'Randall' <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>, triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Name that distributor (TR3)
From: "Art McEwen" <amcewen2@cogeco.ca>
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 13:33:46 -0400
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Hi Bill=2C   I could but they=27re old too so probably losing smoke anyw=
ay=2E
 =

On 10/15/18=2C wbeech =3Cwbeech=40flash=2Enet=3E wrote=3A =

=3E   =

=3E    =

=3E  =

=3E    =

=3E   =

=3E Art=2C
=3E  =

=3E Can=92t you just cut the ends on the leads and fit them into the sid=
e entry cap=3F
=3E  =

=3E Bill
=3E  =

=3E  =

=3E  =

=3E From=3A Triumphs =5Bmailto=3Atriumphs-bounces=40autox=2Eteam=2Enet=5D=
 On Behalf Of Art McEwen
=3E Sent=3A Monday=2C October 15=2C 2018 9=3A34 AM
=3E To=3A Randall =3Ctr3driver=40ca=2Err=2Ecom=3E=3B triumphs=40autox=2E=
team=2Enet
=3E Subject=3A Re=3A =5BTR=5D Name that distributor (TR3)
=3E  =

=3E  =

=3E   =

=3E Thanks Randall=2C
=3E =

=3E  =

=3E  =

=3E =

=3E  =

=3E Yes they sent me LU422318 according to the packaging=2E   It appears=
 from britishvacuumunit=2Ecom that that part along with LU54413549 (moss=
 153-640) might work=2C although it=27s not clear from any of the photos=
 if that terminal connector is meant to fit *over* the fork of LU421078 =
or *instead* of the fork=2E  =

=3E =

=3E  =

=3E  =

=3E =

=3E  =

=3E To further complicate things the internal contacts on my =22up style=
=22 distributor cap are pretty crappy and I have a brand new sideways st=
yle unit I picked up somewhere=2C but that means new leads=2E  sigh=2E=2E=
=2E=2E
=3E =

=3E  =

=3E  =

=3E =

=3E  =

=3E Art
=3E =

=3E  =

=3E  =

=3E =

=3E  =

=3E On 10/15/18=2C Randall =3Ctr3driver=40ca=2Err=2Ecom=3E wrote=3A
=3E =

=3E =

=3E =3E   =

=3E =3E 40480D is an earlier model DM2P4 distributor=2E  The information=
 I have handy
=3E =3E says 40480F (which is functionally the same and still DM2P4=2C t=
he letter is
=3E =3E just a revision level) was used as late as 1959 TR3=2C some of w=
hich were sold
=3E =3E in 1960=2E
=3E =3E =

=3E =3E That same database says cars built in 1960 got 40698A/B=2C which=
 is still a
=3E =3E DM2P4=2E
=3E =3E =

=3E =3E The Moss catalog is certainly misleading=2C as they show a drawi=
ng of the
=3E =3E plate for a DM2P4=2C but the listing says it is for a 25D4=2E  T=
hey have no
=3E =3E listing for the earlier part (which I assume means it is not ava=
ilable)=2E  I
=3E =3E believe the equivalent part number at TRF would be LU421078=2C w=
hich they have
=3E =3E listed as NLA=2E  You might check with Revington=2C he seems to =
source a lot of
=3E =3E parts the others can=27t find=2E
=3E =3E =

=3E =3E Faced with that same dilemma some years ago=2C I fabricated a mo=
unt for the
=3E =3E low tension lead that worked quite well=2E  Just a stack of piec=
es of bare
=3E =3E fiberglass printed circuit board (from the scrap bin=2C no coppe=
r plating)=2C
=3E =3E carved with a Dremel to fit snug but not too tight in the slot i=
n the
=3E =3E distributor cap=2E  A small bolt through the center linked the t=
wo wires=2E
=3E =3E IIRC I used 3 pieces of PC board=2C one smaller to fit inside th=
e notch and
=3E =3E two slightly larger to fit on either side of the notch=2E  A lit=
tle extra work
=3E =3E to install the cap=2C as I had to hold the side wire to position=
 the new piece
=3E =3E in the slot=2C as I lowered the cap into place=2C but not too ba=
d=2E
=3E =3E =

=3E =3E Later=2C I switched to a (used) 25D4 distributor=2E
=3E =3E =

=3E =3E -- Randall  =

=3E =3E =

=3E =3E =3E -----Original Message-----
=3E =3E =3E From=3A Triumphs =5Bmailto=3Atriumphs-bounces=40autox=2Eteam=
=2Enet=5D =3Ctriumphs-bounces=40autox=2Eteam=2Enet=5D=3E On =

=3E =3E =3E Behalf Of Art McEwen
=3E =3E =3E Sent=3A Sunday=2C October 14=2C 2018 7=3A19 PM
=3E =3E =3E To=3A triumphs=40autox=2Eteam=2Enet
=3E =3E =3E Subject=3A =5BTR=5D Name that distributor (TR3)
=3E =3E =3E =

=3E =3E =3E  Hi  =

=3E =3E =3E =

=3E =3E =3E =

=3E =3E =3E The backing plate on my TR3=27s distributor has a lot of pla=
y =

=3E =3E =3E in it so timing is problematic=2E  I ordered a new one from =

=3E =3E =3E Moss however that part (551-055) doesn=27t have the same tal=
l =

=3E =3E =3E attachment for the low tension lead leading outside the cap =

=3E =3E =3E (see old unit on the left)=3A =

=3E =3E =3E https=3A//www=2Edropbox=2Ecom/s/wzxo5gpd3tnuaei/IMG=5F201810=
14=5F1038057
=3E =3E =3E 63=2Ejpg=3Fdl=3D0
=3E =3E =3E =

=3E =3E =3E =

=3E =3E =3E The distributor is stamped 40480D (see below) which doesn=27=
t =

=3E =3E =3E seem to be within the range of their 25D model matching (if =
I =

=3E =3E =3E go down the electronic replacement match-up rabbit hole)=2E =

=3E =3E =3E https=3A//www=2Edropbox=2Ecom/s/s1ghm1wradmp3xw/IMG=5F201810=
14=5F1047562
=3E =3E =3E 91=2Ejpg=3Fdl=3D0
=3E =3E =3E =

=3E =3E =3E Do I have a non-standard distributor=3F  Any idea the right =

=3E =3E =3E part =23 for my backing plate=3F   Or should I just bite the=
 =

=3E =3E =3E bullet and go electronic=3F
=3E =3E =3E =

=3E =3E =3E Thanks=2C
=3E =3E =3E =

=3E =3E =3E Art =

=3E =3E =3E 1960 TR3A  TS64989LO =

=3E =3E =3E =

=3E =3E =

=3E =3E =

=3E   =

=3E  =

=3E =

=3E =

=3E =

=3E =

=3E =

=3E 

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ndy=3Cbr /=3Esays 40480F (which is functionally the same and still DM2P4=
=2C the letter is=3Cbr /=3Ejust a revision level) was used as late as 19=
59 TR3=2C some of which were sold=3Cbr /=3Ein 1960=2E=3Cbr /=3E=3Cbr /=3E=
That same database says cars built in 1960 got 40698A/B=2C which is stil=
l a=3Cbr /=3EDM2P4=2E=3Cbr /=3E=3Cbr /=3EThe Moss catalog is certainly m=
isleading=2C as they show a drawing of the=3Cbr /=3Eplate for a DM2P4=2C=
 but the listing says it is for a 25D4=2E=26nbsp=3B They have no=3Cbr /=3E=
listing for the earlier part (which I assume means it is not available)=2E=
=26nbsp=3B I=3Cbr /=3Ebelieve the equivalent part number at TRF would be=
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ht check with Revington=2C he seems to source a lot of=3Cbr /=3Eparts th=
e others can=27t find=2E=3Cbr /=3E=3Cbr /=3EFaced with that same dilemma=
 some years ago=2C I fabricated a mount for the=3Cbr /=3Elow tension lea=
d that worked quite well=2E=26nbsp=3B Just a stack of pieces of bare=3Cb=
r /=3Efiberglass printed circuit board (from the scrap bin=2C no copper =
plating)=2C=3Cbr /=3Ecarved with a Dremel to fit snug but not too tight =
in the slot in the=3Cbr /=3Edistributor cap=2E=26nbsp=3B A small bolt th=
rough the center linked the two wires=2E=3Cbr /=3EIIRC I used 3 pieces o=
f PC board=2C one smaller to fit inside the notch and=3Cbr /=3Etwo sligh=
tly larger to fit on either side of the notch=2E=26nbsp=3B A little extr=
a work=3Cbr /=3Eto install the cap=2C as I had to hold the side wire to =
position the new piece=3Cbr /=3Ein the slot=2C as I lowered the cap into=
 place=2C but not too bad=2E=3Cbr /=3E=3Cbr /=3ELater=2C I switched to a=
 (used) 25D4 distributor=2E=3Cbr /=3E=3Cbr /=3E-- Randall=26nbsp=3B =3Cb=
r /=3E=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B -----Original Message-----=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B Fr=
om=3A Triumphs =5B=3Ca href=3D=22mailto=3Atriumphs-bounces=40autox=2Etea=
m=2Enet=5D=22 =3Emailto=3Atriumphs-bounces=40autox=2Eteam=2Enet=5D=3C/A=3E=
 On =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B Behalf Of Art McEwen=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B Sent=3A Su=
nday=2C October 14=2C 2018 7=3A19 PM=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B To=3A =3Ca href=3D=
=22mailto=3Atriumphs=40autox=2Eteam=2Enet=22 =3Etriumphs=40autox=2Eteam=2E=
net=3C/A=3E=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B Subject=3A =5BTR=5D Name that distributor =
(TR3)=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B=26nbsp=3B Hi=26nbsp=3B =3Cbr =
/=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B The backing plate on =
my TR3=27s distributor has a lot of play =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B in it so tim=
ing is problematic=2E=26nbsp=3B I ordered a new one from =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=
=3B Moss however that part (551-055) doesn=27t have the same tall =3Cbr =
/=3E=26gt=3B attachment for the low tension lead leading outside the cap=
 =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B (see old unit on the left)=3A =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B =3C=
a href=3D=22https=3A//www=2Edropbox=2Ecom/s/wzxo5gpd3tnuaei/IMG=5F201810=
14=5F1038057=22 target=3D1 =3Ehttps=3A//www=2Edropbox=2Ecom/s/wzxo5gpd3t=
nuaei/IMG=5F20181014=5F1038057=3C/A=3E=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B 63=2Ejpg=3Fdl=3D=
0=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B The distributo=
r is stamped 40480D (see below) which doesn=27t =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B seem =
to be within the range of their 25D model matching (if I =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=
=3B go down the electronic replacement match-up rabbit hole)=2E =3Cbr /=3E=
=26gt=3B =3Ca href=3D=22https=3A//www=2Edropbox=2Ecom/s/s1ghm1wradmp3xw/=
IMG=5F20181014=5F1047562=22 target=3D1 =3Ehttps=3A//www=2Edropbox=2Ecom/=
s/s1ghm1wradmp3xw/IMG=5F20181014=5F1047562=3C/A=3E=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B 91=2E=
jpg=3Fdl=3D0=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B Do I have a non-standa=
rd distributor=3F=26nbsp=3B Any idea the right =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B part =23=
 for my backing plate=3F=26nbsp=3B=26nbsp=3B Or should I just bite the =3C=
br /=3E=26gt=3B bullet and go electronic=3F=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr /=3E=
=26gt=3B Thanks=2C=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B Art =3Cbr /=3E=26=
gt=3B 1960 TR3A=26nbsp=3B TS64989LO =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B =3Co=3Ap=3E=3C/o=3A=
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