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Yes, it needs to be spring wire, I liked Randall=E2=80=99s idea of using a b=
all point pen spring.=20
Sent from my Handspring Treo
On Oct 7, 2018, at 3:44 PM, David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com> wrote:
This isn't simply wire. It's spring wire....
Doesn't it need to be hardened and tempered wire?
> On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 10:45 AM Randall <tr3driver@ca.rr.com> wrote:
> The only that thing that matters is how much force it puts on the brushes.=
And you can adjust that after making the spring.=20
>=20
> Make it too long to begin with, then trim to length. If that's too weak, t=
rim another turn. If that's too strong, spread one of the coils a bit.
>=20
> If what you make the first time won't do, change wire size and do it again=
. Only takes a minute once you've got the setup.
>=20
> This is 18th century technology, not rocket science.
> -- Randall
>=20
>> On 6 October 2018 18:46:19 GMT-05:00, David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.c=
om> wrote:
>> Make a spring? So many variables in such an inexpensive part:=20
>> Wire gauge, pitch, overall length, etc....
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>> On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 7:43 PM Randall <tr3driver@ca.rr.com> wrote:
>>> I have successfully carved the " ears" from a scrap of PC board.
>>> Didn't lose the spring, but I suspect you could make a suitable substitu=
te from the spring inside a retractable ball point pen.
>>>=20
>>> Or buy some spring wire and make one from scratch. I've done it in the l=
athe, but you could probably manage with a slow turning drill and a nail or s=
imilar for a mandrel. Its best not to try to hold the wire in your fingers, i=
t can cut you pretty badly. So use a scrap if wood or similar to guide the w=
ire as the drill turns.
>>> -- Randall
>>>=20
>>>> On 6 October 2018 15:50:29 GMT-05:00, David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail=
.com> wrote:
>>>> Hey all;
>>>>=20
>>>> The wiper motor on my TR3A looked quite sad. I removed it and=20
>>>> proceeded to remover 60 years of crud, outside and in.
>>>>=20
>>>> In the process of cleaning the parts, I have misplaced the tiny=20
>>>> spring and the two tiny "ears" that hold spring to the two brush=20
>>>> "arms" that rest against the armature. [Moss P/N 554-030]
>>>>=20
>>>> Unfortunately, these parts are now NLA from any source I know of. =20
>>>> See item number 2 from the Moss illustration, below.=20
>>>>=20
>>>> Seems crazy to buy a replacement/salvage motor just to replace=20
>>>> a missing spring and retaining 'ears.' Ideas?
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> =20
>>>>=20
>>>> Thanks for any help!!
>>>>=20
>>>> Dave Friedlander
>>>> '74 TR6
>>>> '59 TR3A
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Yes, it needs to be spring wire, I liked Ra=
ndall=E2=80=99s idea of using a ball point pen spring. <br><br><div id=3D=
"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 2=
55, 255, 0);">Sent from my Handspring Treo</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>=
On Oct 7, 2018, at 3:44 PM, David Friedlander <<a href=3D"mailto:forzion7=
@gmail.com">forzion7@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic san=
s ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">This isn't simply wire. It's s=
pring wire....</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic s=
ans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">Doesn't it need to be harde=
ned and tempered wire?</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D=
"ltr">On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 10:45 AM Randall <<a href=3D"mailto:tr3drive=
r@ca.rr.com">tr3driver@ca.rr.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-=
left:1ex"><div>The only that thing that matters is how much force it puts on=
the brushes. And you can adjust that after making the spring. <br><br>Make i=
t too long to begin with, then trim to length. If that's too weak, trim anot=
her turn. If that's too strong, spread one of the coils a bit.<br><br>If wha=
t you make the first time won't do, change wire size and do it again. Only t=
akes a minute once you've got the setup.<br><br>This is 18th century technol=
ogy, not rocket science.<br>-- Randall<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 6=
October 2018 18:46:19 GMT-05:00, David Friedlander <<a href=3D"mailto:fo=
rzion7@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">forzion7@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px=
solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic san=
s ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">Make a spring? So many variab=
les in such an inexpensive part: </div><div class=3D"gmail_default" sty=
le=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">Wi=
re gauge, pitch, overall length, etc....</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" s=
tyle=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">=
<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sa=
ns-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 7:43 PM Randall <<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:tr3driver@ca.rr.com"; target=3D"_blank">tr3driver@ca.rr.com</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .=
8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>I have successfully ca=
rved the " ears" from a scrap of PC board.<br>Didn't lose the spring, but I s=
uspect you could make a suitable substitute from the spring inside a retract=
able ball point pen.<br><br>Or buy some spring wire and make one from scratc=
h. I've done it in the lathe, but you could probably manage with a slow turn=
ing drill and a nail or similar for a mandrel. Its best not to try to hold t=
he wire in your fingers, it can cut you pretty badly. So use a scrap if wood=
or similar to guide the wire as the drill turns.<br>-- Randall<br><br><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote">On 6 October 2018 15:50:29 GMT-05:00, David Friedlander=
<<a href=3D"mailto:forzion7@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">forzion7@gmail.=
com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0=
pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic san=
s ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">Hey all;</div><div class=3D"g=
mail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;=
color:#000099"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:c=
omic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">The wiper motor on my=
TR3A looked quite sad. I removed it and </div><div class=3D"gmail_defa=
ult" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#00=
0099">proceeded to remover 60 years of crud, outside and in.</div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:l=
arge;color:#000099"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fam=
ily:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">In the process o=
f cleaning the parts, I have misplaced the tiny </div><div class=3D"gma=
il_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;co=
lor:#000099">spring and the two tiny "ears" that hold spring to the two brus=
h </div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms=
,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">"arms" that rest against the arma=
ture. [Moss P/N 554-030]</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fam=
ily:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099"><br></div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-si=
ze:large;color:#000099">Unfortunately, these parts are now NLA from any sour=
ce I know of. </div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">See item number=
2 from the Moss illustration, below. </div><div class=3D"gmail_default=
" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#00009=
9"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms=
,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">Seems crazy to buy a replacement/=
salvage motor just to replace </div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D=
"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">a missi=
ng spring and retaining 'ears.' Ideas?</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" sty=
le=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099"><b=
r></div><div><img alt=3D"image.png" width=3D"482" height=3D"364" src=3D"cid:=
"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,=
sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099"> </div><div class=3D"gm=
ail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;c=
olor:#000099"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:co=
mic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">Thanks for any help!!<=
/div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-se=
rif;font-size:large;color:#000099"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" st=
yle=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">D=
ave Friedlander</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic=
sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">'74 TR6</div><div class=3D=
"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:larg=
e;color:#000099">'59 TR3A</div></div>
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