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Subject: [Fot] Weather at PVGP/Kastner Cup
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 17:32:58 +0200
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Hi Ken,

 

interesting subject.

This means, sweating would be harmful in a case of fire.

Question:

If you put a drop of water on a hot plate, you see the drop dancing on a steam 
pillow which protects the drop from vaporizing.

If your suit is wet, maybe it creates a cooling layer around you, as if water 
vaporizes it cools?

So this maybe delays the heat up of the suit?

 

Cheers

Chris

 

Von: Kenneth Knight <kknight at klaenv.com> 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 3. Juli 2018 17:05
An: tr4racing at googlemail.com
Betreff: RE: [Fot] Weather at PVGP/Kastner Cup

 

Chris I never said that.  I was just pointing out that the folks that certify 
your drivers suit note the risk associated with soaking that suit before 
heading on track in the event of fire.  They have done the testing and detail 
what happens with fire turning a wet suit into steam next to your skin.  We all 
sweat during a race, sometimes it rains, this cannot be helped.  On a very hot 
and dry day you have to weigh and assume the risk of soaking yourself no matter 
the cooling provided.  I used to pour a bottle of water down the front of my 
suit on the grid, I no longer do that.  I am not interested in becoming a test 
Lobster no matter how small the chance of that happening.  

 

Good racing to you, Ken  

 

Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2018 6:49 AM
To: 'Kenneth Knight'; fot at autox. team. net
Subject: AW: [Fot] Weather at PVGP/Kastner Cup

 

This means, no racing in rain with open top cars?

 

Cheers

Chris

 

Gesendet: Dienstag, 3. Juli 2018 15:47
Betreff: RE: [Fot] Weather at PVGP/Kastner Cup

 

Anyone soaking themselves in their suit may want to rethink this idea.  Not a 
bad thought to get you nice and cool but there are other considerations.  While 
doing some research for our Master Instructor program with VARA I came across 
information from the safety certification process that pointed out a wet 
drivers suit in a fire situation will quickly produce steam and par-boil person 
inside.  The ability to protect you in a fire event for enough time to be  put 
out or exit is seriously compromised.  The danger of burn injury goes way up in 
this event.  Likelihood of this happening, very low, probability that it could 
happen however is not zero. 

 

Buddy of mine, racing a car with a top, installed a cool box and puts on a cool 
suit.   I believe they also make a vest you freeze and put on under your 
drivers suit.

 

Ken

 

From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chris Marx via Fot
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2018 11:51 PM
To: fot at autox. team. net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Weather at PVGP/Kastner Cup

 

I?ve once went under a cold shower before the race with my full racing suit.

Helped for about 40min of racing.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

Gesendet: Dienstag, 3. Juli 2018 01:47
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Weather at PVGP/Kastner Cup

 

A nice trick is to stuff ice cubes into a couple of quart size ZIP LOC bags, 
and place them under your driver?s suit, one on each side at waist level.

Sent from my iPhone



?My big concern is overheating both for my car and me.  The heat plus humidity 
will have you sweating just standing still.  Make sure to stay hydrated.

 


I like the National Weather Service 
https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=40.700415776967645 
<https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=40.700415776967645&lon=-80.11360801139983#.WzpBsy3MzzI>
 &lon=-80.11360801139983#.WzpBsy3MzzI

Looks like Friday is the only iffy day, but this has shifted from two days ago 
and may shift again.  

Overall looks pretty darned good - cooling off a bit too!

 


 

I just looked at the forecast for the end of the week for PIR and Pittsburg 
area.  They are indicating T-Storms mid week through Friday.  Looking decent 
for the weekend.  The Thursday and Friday test and practice days look wet.

 

What is the outlook for the weekend, given locale knowledge, of the East Coast 
weather at the track this coming weekend?

 

I had a message that Kas was on the road in Colorado.  I am flying in on 
Thursday.  Everyone have a safe drive.

 

Ken

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