I realize these old TR2-3 gear boxes are pretty much worthless and I have no
use for them. I imagine that they came out of cars at some point for a good
reason.
I'm not sure if the internal components, gears or shafts have any value anyone
either. They may be best for scrap.
A few years ago, I rescued a vast collection of TR parts and spares from being
scrapped. There were also a dozen engines, that I tore down for component
evaluation. In that mix, I found the original engine to my TR3. That alone
was worth my efforts. Old TS46871E will live again. It was an interesting
mechanical forensic project, determining reasons of failure.
So, I have good blocks and a number of standard cranks standing by.
DH
On March 18, 2018 at 8:36 AM Bill <Bill at ponostyle.com> wrote:
They pretty much belong in a barn. There isn?t any way I know of to make then
handle even the horsepower they are rated if you drive in a spirited fashion.
With a later TR4 or TR6 case and some work or a quaife dog box set you have a
prayer, but TR3 not so much. I have three or four I?d be happy to give you.
> On Mar 17, 2018, at 5:29 PM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot at autox.team.net
> mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote:
>
>
> I have at least 10 TR3, no syncro first gear transmissions sitting on a
> palette in an old barn, if anyone might need one, let me know.
>
> No overdrives.
>
> The few TR4A-TR6 boxes that I have are keepers with the one overdrive on
> a TR3 box that was in my TR2.
>
>
> Dave H.
>
> > > On March 16, 2018 at 9:55 AM fubog1 via Fot <fot at
> autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote:
> >
> > The early boxes aren't worth much, they have inherent weaknesses,
> > but the later 6 box is much better, especially for a racecar.
> > Glen
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot
> > at autox.team.net >
> > To: John Hasty <jhasty at mhc-law.com mailto:jhasty at mhc-law.com >
> > Cc: fot <fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net >
> > Sent: Fri, Mar 16, 2018 12:42 pm
> > Subject: Re: [Fot] New Cars, New Parts
> >
> > I wish, they're just old stock non OD units. from TR-3's and
> > probably 6's. I think I have about 5. don't "need" any of them.
> >
> > Cheers, Henry
> >
> > Sent from Outlook http://aka.ms/weboutlook
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------
> > From: John Hasty <jhasty at mhc-law.com mailto:jhasty at
> > mhc-law.com >
> > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 6:16 PM
> > To: Henry A. Morrison
> > Cc: Kenneth Knight; fot
> > Subject: Re: [Fot] New Cars, New Parts
> >
> > Henry... any of those gear sets you have happen to be the close
> > ratio TR set? I still use one with an A OD & could use a spare.....
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Mar 15, 2018, at 7:45 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot at
> > autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote:
> >
> >
> > > > > I just can't disagree with this statement
> > more.
> > > 1. Vintage racing is dying. There are way fewer cars
> > > and races than there were in 1986 when I started.
> > > 2. The newer cars and drivers scarcely know what a road
> > > course is. Car culture was different after '72 and especially now, just
> > > look at the current Fast and furious movies that sell the current car
> > > culture.
> > > 3. how many old TR gearboxes from my personal
> > > collection would you like to have delivered to your place tomorrow? Or
> > > buy some of the ones on ebay for $150, that seems to be the going rate.
> > > 4. Clubs that accept cars from the 80's are selling out
> > > for the entry fee, and in doing so driving me away in the process.
> > >
> > > Have a great racing season,
> > >
> > > Henry Morrison, Albuquerque, NM
> > >
> > > Sent from Outlook http://aka.ms/weboutlook
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > It is good to see that other clubs are allowing newer cars
> > > into their races. VARA has been doing this for several years so that we
> > > could survive, keep the club solvent and the cost of racing reasonable.
> > > The future of vintage racing is an expansion to cars from the 80?s and
> > > 90?s, they are long past their prime in other venues, cheap and they
> > > bring in new drivers. They are in fact ?vintage?, like our cars were in
> > > the 80? and 90?s. More important, these are the guys and gals that
> > > lusted for a certain hot car of the that era and now have older kids and
> > > the bucks to go racing. Without these folks our sport will pass along
> > > with us.
> > >
> > > The same is true of parts. Much of our equipment is worn out
> > > and not maintainable without great cost and effort any longer. Gear
> > > boxes are an example. I am down to my last good transmission case for my
> > > dog box. When that goes, or the gear set is toast, I am making the
> > > switch to a modern box (same ratios) that I can maintain. Like many of
> > > us I have missed races because of transmission failures. Tony runs a
> > > Ford 8? because he doesn?t want to get hurt, and it is bullet proof for
> > > racing, even has a weight penalty. A gear box switch is inevitable if
> > > we want to keep our cars on track at an expenditure of time and money
> > > that makes sense.
> > >
> > > There are tons of other parts that make engines last longer
> > > (and yes they make more power). An old TR motor is nothing but half a
> > > Chevy Small Block; those guys spent hundreds of millions developing motor
> > > parts that we can take advantage of. Same is true of blueprinting
> > > techniques, there are much better ways to build engines than ?back in the
> > > day? and if you read a book and learn how to do it the bloody lump lasts
> > > twice as long. Last time I had my motor out I could have put the coated
> > > bearings with 25 races on them back in. At 36 races I had <5% leak down
> > > on the rings and valves. Started out building the old school way, with
> > > old school parts, those days are over as I don?t have the time to spend
> > > five days in the shop for every day at the track.
> > >
> > > Oil. There is no such thing as cheap racing oil. Modern oil
> > > is the best it has ever been and makes the motor last. I had technical
> > > help from Lake Speed who is the ?man? for Joe Gibbs Driven race oil. The
> > > stuff is $18 a quart but will last 500+ miles in the car (4-6 race
> > > weekends). Just change the filter after every race and add on quart,
> > > total cost $30.00. I can run all the way down to 27 wt. (mixing) but
> > > just run the 30 wt. racing oil even at +100 degrees in the desert and the
> > > oil pressure is always spot on. Tight clearances, light oil and great
> > > bearing life, well worth the cost.
> > >
> > > My point in all of this is that ?vintage? racing is changing,
> > > both the cars and the people. We are going to have to accept and adapt
> > > or slowly see our sport fade. They will always be a special place for
> > > those cars with a 50 year race history, prepared exactly like it raced in
> > > 1965. For the rest of the grid, and those of us that don?t have cars
> > > with history, there are going to be cars with certain changes that get us
> > > to the track. Besides some of us are just SoCal Hot Rodders at heart
> > > with a touch of ?good ole boy? NACAR ingenuity. Now I need to get back
> > > to work on that 85% scale TR-4 body in aluminum, or possible carbon
> > > fiber???..Everyone have a great 2018 season racing!
> > >
> > > Ken
> > >
> > > > >
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