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Subject: [Fot] Trouble with Porterfield Brake Pads
From: Bill at ponostyle.com (Bill)
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2018 09:20:45 -1000
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I can?t think of a pad I?ve put into any of my British cars that I didn?t have 
to modify?either a little or a lot. Generally grinding some part of the backing 
plate to make the pad fit or engage  the disk properly. Probably Porterfield 
doesn?t know this can occasionally be a problem because no one bothered to tell 
them over the last 25 years?they just did what was necessary to make the pads 
work. 

> On Mar 7, 2018, at 2:21 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Hello Amici,
> 
> Porterfield brake pads in the R4-1 compound were recommended to me. I 
> dutifully ordered a set for my Spitfire.
> 
> I should mention the car has been upgraded to GT6 brake calipers, the 
> venerable Girling 16P. My TR4 and 4A also use the 16P. I have been buying 
> brake pads for these cars for over 35 years.
> 
> I have had my calipers rebuilt and purchased new retaining pins as well. The 
> Porterfield pads arrived. I found 2 issues. The pad compound shape was not 
> the same as every pad I have previously purchased or what is shown on 
> Porterfield's website. I also found the retaining pin holes in the puck to be 
> too small. The puck itself is the same general dimension as my original 
> Girling Competition pad and does fit in the caliper but I cannot put the pins 
> through the holes.
> 
> I simply assumed they had sent pads for the later GT6, the Girling 16PB or 
> M16PB that use 3/16" retaining pins.
> 
> 8 Emails with manager, Wendy and 1 phone call with engineer Tim and we still 
> have a disagreement. I was told they had sold that exact pad "for 25 years" 
> for my application and no one had ever had a problem or complained. When I 
> asked why I couldn't simply have what was shown on their website as the pad 
> for the 16P, I was told that was just a general illustration and not correct 
> for any specific application.
> 
> They have offered to drill out the retaining pin holes to fit my pins. I am 
> honestly disappointed that I simply can't have what fits out of the box and 
> to have to argue the point back and forth through multiple Emails and a terse 
> phone call.
> 
> So, my questions to those of you running a 16P (late TR3 through early TR6 
> and GT6 1968-72 along with many other British applications) are:
> 
> 1. Are you using Porterfield pads in your calipers?
> 
> 2. Have you found them to fit the standard 1/4" retaining pin?
> 
> 3. If you have found them to not fit the pins, are you drilling them out 
> yourself?
> 
> 4. Does the difference in pad shape concern you at all (photo attached)?
> 
> 5. If not Porterfield, then what are you using? Without divulging any speed 
> secrets, of course...
> 
> I'm close enough to their facility that I can appear there with my pins, pads 
> and calipers to prove what they disbelieve...it just shouldn't have to come 
> to that with a reputable company from my view...
> 
> Your thoughts and experience are appreciated.
> 
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> 
> <IMG_2858.jpg>
> ??
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> Brad Eells
> Chino CA
> #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4
> #76 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3
> 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!
> 
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