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Subject: [TR] rear oil seal conversion
From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 06:08:12 -0400
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As it relates to the new seal design where you don?t need to grind the scroll; 
check the flywheel bolt length and protrusion as even the stock bolts can 
interfere and contact the seal. I just installed one and had to grind a small 
amount off the ends of the stock bolts. I understand the ARP bolts must be 
ground as well. Otherwise a good improvement.
JVV 

From: Dave 
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 9:22 PM
To: auprichard at uprichard.net 
Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net 
Subject: Re: [TR] rear oil seal conversion

The stock crank is good beyond regular 6000 revs.  6500 on the over rev, if it 
is machine with the correct radius on the journals, balanced and nitrided.  I 
have good experience with this and learned the facts from experts.  The rods 
are the weaker link, but if they are crack checked and balanced, they should be 
good to 5500.  They are designed for 5-5500 stock.  Kas Kastner used all 
factory parts in his factory team cars for years, because those were the rules, 
and his drivers certainly revved them well beyond 5500.  The rods are known to 
break at the oil hole in the middle of the length of the rod.  The hole provide 
lubrication to the piston skirt and liner.  In the past, for racing, the holes 
were welded up to prevent failure there.   Carrillo rods, or something similar 
from a quality supplier are great insurance for a performance build.
The seal shouldn't need to be changed, unless during set up or other reasons it 
is leaking badly.  Of course, if the engine is apart, always replace. 
The newer seal design is superior and the scroll doesn't need to be machined 
off the crank.  It combines the original crank seal design, with a groove 
machined for a Viton radial oil seal.  So far, they have excellent results 
eliminating rear seal leaks. 

Rev on,
Dave H.

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 14, 2018, at 2:45 PM, auprichard at uprichard.net wrote:


  List:  what is the general consensus about replacing rear oil seal 
conversions?

  I have a smallmouth TR3 which is pulling well way past the 5500 rpm mark, so 
rather than risk a failure of a 60 year-old cast iron connecting rod, I think I 
will pull the engine and install steel rods.  I had thought about a steel 
crank, but the 4-cylinder engines have a remarkably robust crank (and money 
does become an option).  The car has many upgrades, and I really should have 
gone with steel rods originally.

  Anyway, the engine has the Moss rear oil seal conversion (with the machined 
crank).  Should the seal be replaced as a matter of routine?  The engine only 
has about 2000 miles on it.

  Andrew Uprichard
  Jackson, Michigan

   
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