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To: "ptegler@verizon.net" <ptegler@verizon.net>, Triumphs List <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] triumph transmissions
From: Frank Fisher <yellowtr3@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 17:14:54 +0000 (UTC)
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hummmm
i guess i need to find an old TR3 trany locally and fall back to first prin=
ciples.
i love a good engineering puzzle



      From: ptegler <ptegler@verizon.net>
 To: Frank Fisher <yellowtr3@yahoo.com>; Triumphs List <triumphs@autox.team=
.net>=20
 Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 7:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [TR] triumph transmissions
  =20
 well not quite..... the back plates are different between the GT6 and TR6 =
(bolt circles to match the bell housing and different starter motor positio=
n/location)=C2=A0 The TR6 bell housing is deeper than a GT6 as well to clea=
r the clutch / throw out arm/ throw out bearing assy differences.=C2=A0 I b=
elieve also the crank nose of the TR6 protrudes a bit more than a GT6 crank=
 (to match the flywheel depth/offset) ptegler
 =20
 On 7/18/2016 1:54 PM, Frank Fisher wrote:
 =20
  im about to embark on building a 5 speed toyota transmission for a friend=
.=C2=A0 its for his triumph GT6.=20
  so, i want to be sure i get the correct or near correct bell housing. its=
 all about the bell housing and nothing more.=20
  a TR3 transmission will fit a TR4. a tr4 transmission will fit a TR6 acco=
rding to recent posts.=20
  a GT6 motor is the same block as a TR6 just smaller pistons and stroke to=
 make it a 2000cc..??????=20
 =20
 =20
  so i am assuming that a bell-housing from a TR will mount to a GT6 motor.=
=20
 =20
  i can engineer all other parts, flywheel, clutch, throw out bearings and =
forks etc.=20
  am i correct in the statements i made above?=20
  thanks=20
  Frank=20
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ont-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, =
sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div><span>hummmm</span></div><div><span><br></s=
pan></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1468862836619_95501"><span id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1468862836619_95502">i guess i need to find an old TR3 tra=
ny locally and fall back to first principles.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1468862836619_95500"><span><br></span></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1468862836619_95504"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14688=
62836619_95527">i love a good engineering puzzle</span></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1468862836619_95504"><span><br></span></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1468862836619_95504"><span><br></span></div><di=
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yle=3D"display: block;">  <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helveti=
ca Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1468862836619_95373"> <div style=3D"font-family: Helvetica=
Neue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-siz=
e: 16px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1468862836619_95372"> <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"y=
ui_3_16_0_1_1468862836619_95380"> <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial" id=3D"yui=
_3_16_0_1_1468862836619_95499"> <hr size=3D"1"> <b><span style=3D"font-weig=
ht:bold;">From:</span></b> ptegler &lt;ptegler@verizon.net&gt;<br> <b><span=
 style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Frank Fisher &lt;yellowtr3@yah=
oo.com&gt;; Triumphs List &lt;triumphs@autox.team.net&gt; <br> <b><span sty=
le=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, July 18, 2016 7:56 PM<br=
> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [TR] triump=
h transmissions<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container" id=3D"yui=
_3_16_0_1_1468862836619_95371"><br><div id=3D"yiv3690439710"><div id=3D"yui=
_3_16_0_1_1468862836619_95370">
    <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1468862836619_95379">well not quite..... the ba=
ck plates are different between the GT6
      and TR6 (bolt circles to match the bell housing and different
      starter motor position/location)&nbsp; The TR6 bell housing is deeper
      than a GT6 as well to clear the clutch / throw out arm/ throw out
      bearing assy differences.&nbsp; I believe also the crank nose of the
      TR6 protrudes a bit more than a GT6 crank (to match the flywheel
      depth/offset)</div>
    <div>ptegler<br clear=3D"none">
    </div>
    <br clear=3D"none">
    <div class=3D"yiv3690439710yqt6804735036" id=3D"yiv3690439710yqt01993">=
<div class=3D"yiv3690439710moz-cite-prefix" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_146886283661=
9_95378">On 7/18/2016 1:54 PM, Frank Fisher
      wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1468862836619_95369">
      <div style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaN=
eue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:=
16px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1468862836619_95368">
        <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv3690439710yui_3_16_0_1_1468862836619_8499=
">im about to
          embark on building a 5 speed toyota transmission for a
          friend.&nbsp;</div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv3690439710yui_3_16_0_1_1468862836619_8499=
">its for his
          triumph GT6.</div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv3690439710yui_3_16_0_1_1468862836619_8499=
"><br clear=3D"none">
        </div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv3690439710yui_3_16_0_1_1468862836619_8499=
">so, i want
          to be sure i get the correct or near correct bell housing. its
          all about the bell housing and nothing more.</div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv3690439710yui_3_16_0_1_1468862836619_8499=
"><br clear=3D"none">
        </div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv3690439710yui_3_16_0_1_1468862836619_8499=
">a TR3
          transmission will fit a TR4.</div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv3690439710yui_3_16_0_1_1468862836619_8499=
">a tr4
          transmission will fit a TR6 according to recent posts.</div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv3690439710yui_3_16_0_1_1468862836619_8499=
"><br clear=3D"none">
        </div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv3690439710yui_3_16_0_1_1468862836619_8499=
">a GT6 motor
          is the same block as a TR6 just smaller pistons and stroke to
          make it a 2000cc..??????</div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv3690439710yui_3_16_0_1_1468862836619_8499=
"><br clear=3D"none">
        </div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv3690439710yui_3_16_0_1_1468862836619_8499=
"><br clear=3D"none">
        </div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv3690439710yui_3_16_0_1_1468862836619_8499=
"><br clear=3D"none">
        </div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv3690439710yui_3_16_0_1_1468862836619_8499=
">so i am
          assuming that a bell-housing from a TR will mount to a GT6
          motor.</div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv3690439710yui_3_16_0_1_1468862836619_8499=
"><br clear=3D"none">
        </div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv3690439710yui_3_16_0_1_1468862836619_8499=
"><br clear=3D"none">
        </div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv3690439710yui_3_16_0_1_1468862836619_8499=
">i can
          engineer all other parts, flywheel, clutch, throw out bearings
          and forks etc.</div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv3690439710yui_3_16_0_1_1468862836619_8499=
"><br clear=3D"none">
        </div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv3690439710yui_3_16_0_1_1468862836619_8499=
">am i correct
          in the statements i made above?</div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv3690439710yui_3_16_0_1_1468862836619_8499=
"><br clear=3D"none">
        </div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv3690439710yui_3_16_0_1_1468862836619_8499=
">thanks</div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv3690439710yui_3_16_0_1_1468862836619_8499=
"><br clear=3D"none">
        </div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv3690439710yui_3_16_0_1_1468862836619_8499=
">Frank</div>
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"><br clear=3D"none">
        </div>
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