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Dave Massey rescued me. He looked at the carbs for a few seconds, there is =
your problem. Take those caps off the ports that would normally have hoses=
going to the carbon canister (that's not on that his car). Those ports nee=
d to breathe to allow the pressure to equalize so the fuel valves can shut =
off. Took the caps off and it is working perfectly now without puking gasol=
ine.
THANK YOU DAVE!!!
________________________________
From: Dave <dave1massey@cs.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 8:48:53 AM
To: creig555@live.com
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question - about choke
I may come by. I have nothing going on today and I need to find some wire =
harnesses that may be down there.
Dave Massey
-----Original Message-----
From: Creig Houghtaling <creig555@live.com>
To: Dave <dave1massey@cs.com>; triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, Mar 13, 2016 8:29 am
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question - about choke
Dave,
You are probably on to something here. The car is a 76. I will be at the ga=
rage working on the carbs again today. If you have a free minute to talk so=
me time today, give me a ring.
Creig
________________________________
From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Dave <dave1ma=
ssey@cs.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 7:15:51 AM
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question - about choke
What year is the car? In the 73 and later cars the carbs have a valve that =
diverts the float bowl vents from a port on the face of the carb (air filte=
r) to a port that is connected to the charcoal canister. These can get stuc=
k in one position or the other and the canisters often clog or fill up with=
gas. Or the lines get plugged. The diverter valves will open the port on t=
he faceof the carb when the throttle is off-idle so see if there is any dif=
ference when the throttle is cranked open.
Dave Massey
-----Original Message-----
From: Creig Houghtaling <creig555@live.com>
To: Dave <dave1massey@cs.com>; wbeech <wbeech@flash.net>
Cc: triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sat, Mar 12, 2016 9:53 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question - about choke
Adjusted the floats. Pulled the chokes to get started. Cranked a few times =
and didn't start. Figured it needed fuel pumped. So I pulled the manual lev=
er to fill the carbs. Stopped pumping when I saw gasoline squirting out the=
choke (enrichment) valve. I am confused about what could be going on here.=
I have other carbs I can pull the valve and trade. But that may not be the=
whole story.
Creig
________________________________
From: Dave <dave1massey@cs.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 3:30:48 PM
To: wbeech@flash.net; creig555@live.com
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question
Another possibility is if the float bowl vents are clogged there is no plac=
e for the air to go and the floats will never rise up to shut off the gas f=
low.
Dave Massey
-----Original Message-----
From: Wbeech@flash.net <wbeech@flash.net>
To: Creig Houghtaling <creig555@live.com>
Cc: Dave <dave1massey@cs.com>; triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sat, Mar 12, 2016 9:14 am
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question
Ditto Dave.
Just had that same problem with a recent non-TR acquisition. PO had install=
ed the higher pressure pump and the car instantly flooded as soon as it was=
turned off. Much fiddling and head scratching before I replaced the fuel p=
ump with a 2-3psi Facet and problem was solved.
Sent from my VIC-64
On Mar 12, 2016, at 8:31 AM, Creig Houghtaling <creig555@live.com> wrote:
Mechanical pump.
________________________________
From: Dave <dave1massey@cs.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 6:52 AM
To: creig555@live.com; triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question
Is he running an electric fuel pump? If so is it a 2 - 3 PSI unit or the hi=
gher, more common 5 - 7 PSI pump? the higher pressure may be overcoming the=
float valves.
Dave Massey
-----Original Message-----
From: Creig Houghtaling <creig555@live.com>
To: Triumph List <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Mar 8, 2016 5:24 pm
Subject: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question
My friend's TR6 was running poorly. After the car had been running, and was=
turned off, I noticed drips of gasoline dropping from the port below the f=
orward carb just in front of the intake manifold. I concluded the Gross jet=
was not stopping the flow of gas to the carb and gas was getting pushed in=
to the engine. So I replaced both float valves with standard valves and als=
o changed both floats. After putting everything back together, I ran the ca=
r for a few minutes and turned it off. It was dripping gas out the same por=
t. Looked in the throat from the air filter side and saw a small puddle of =
gas in the lower area right in front of the venturi. As far as I know, that=
means the gas isn't shutting off. Perhaps I didn't adjust the float correc=
tly. Or there is something at the fuel inlet orifice allowing gas to bypass=
the valve. Is there anything I am missing here? Could the enrichment valve=
(choke) be the culprit? I haven't touched that yet. I adjusted the new flo=
at to fully close the valve when the mold line of the float was parallel wi=
th the horizontal edge of the carb where the fuel reservoir attaches.
Am I missing anything else here?
Thanks
Creig Houghtaling
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Dave Massey rescued me. He looked at the carbs for a few seconds, there is =
your problem. Take those caps off the ports that would normally have =
hoses going to the carbon canister (that's not on that his car). Those port=
s need to breathe to allow the pressure
to equalize so the fuel valves can shut off. Took the caps off and it is w=
orking perfectly now without puking gasoline.
<br>
<br>
THANK YOU DAVE!!!<br>
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cs.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 13, 2016 8:48:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> creig555@live.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question - about choke</font>
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><font size=3D"4">I may come by. I have nothing going on today and I =
need to find some wire harnesses that may be down there.</font>
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<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave Massey</font><br>
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Original Message-----<br>
From: Creig Houghtaling <creig555@live.com><br>
To: Dave <dave1massey@cs.com>; triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net&g=
t;<br>
Sent: Sun, Mar 13, 2016 8:29 am<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question - about choke<br>
<br>
Dave,<br>
You are probably on to something here. The car is a 76. I will be at the ga=
rage working on the carbs again today. If you have a free minute to talk so=
me time today, give me a ring.
<br>
Creig <br>
________________________________<br>
From: Triumphs <<a removedlink__b07a7429-54b1-4de1-b507-367abe50efb9__hr=
ef=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net";>triumphs-bounces@autox.team.n=
et</a>> on behalf of Dave <<a removedlink__b07a7429-54b1-4de1-b507-36=
7abe50efb9__href=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.com";>dave1massey@cs.com</a>><b=
r>
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 7:15:51 AM<br>
To: <a removedlink__b07a7429-54b1-4de1-b507-367abe50efb9__href=3D"mailto:tr=
iumphs@autox.team.net">
triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br>
Cc: <a removedlink__b07a7429-54b1-4de1-b507-367abe50efb9__href=3D"mailto:tr=
iumphs@autox.team.net">
triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question - about choke<br>
<br>
What year is the car? In the 73 and later cars the carbs have a valve that =
diverts the float bowl vents from a port on the face of the carb (air filte=
r) to a port that is connected to the charcoal canister. These can get stuc=
k in one position or the other and
the canisters often clog or fill up with gas. Or the lines get plugged. Th=
e diverter valves will open the port on the faceof the carb when the thrott=
le is off-idle so see if there is any difference when the throttle is crank=
ed open.<br>
<br>
Dave Massey<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Creig Houghtaling <<a removedlink__b07a7429-54b1-4de1-b507-367abe5=
0efb9__href=3D"mailto:creig555@live.com";>creig555@live.com</a>><br>
To: Dave <<a removedlink__b07a7429-54b1-4de1-b507-367abe50efb9__href=3D"=
mailto:dave1massey@cs.com";>dave1massey@cs.com</a>>; wbeech <<a remove=
dlink__b07a7429-54b1-4de1-b507-367abe50efb9__href=3D"mailto:wbeech@flash.ne=
t">wbeech@flash.net</a>><br>
Cc: triumphs <<a removedlink__b07a7429-54b1-4de1-b507-367abe50efb9__href=
=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br>
Sent: Sat, Mar 12, 2016 9:53 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question - about choke<br>
<br>
Adjusted the floats. Pulled the chokes to get started. Cranked a few times =
and didn't start. Figured it needed fuel pumped. So I pulled the manual lev=
er to fill the carbs. Stopped pumping when I saw gasoline squirting out the=
choke (enrichment) valve. I am
confused about what could be going on here. I have other carbs I can pull =
the valve and trade. But that may not be the whole story.<br>
<br>
Creig<br>
________________________________<br>
From: Dave <<a removedlink__b07a7429-54b1-4de1-b507-367abe50efb9__href=
=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.com";>dave1massey@cs.com</a>><br>
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 3:30:48 PM<br>
To: <a removedlink__b07a7429-54b1-4de1-b507-367abe50efb9__href=3D"mailto:wb=
eech@flash.net">
wbeech@flash.net</a>; <a removedlink__b07a7429-54b1-4de1-b507-367abe50efb9_=
_href=3D"mailto:creig555@live.com";>
creig555@live.com</a><br>
Cc: <a removedlink__b07a7429-54b1-4de1-b507-367abe50efb9__href=3D"mailto:tr=
iumphs@autox.team.net">
triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question<br>
<br>
Another possibility is if the float bowl vents are clogged there is no plac=
e for the air to go and the floats will never rise up to shut off the gas f=
low.<br>
<br>
Dave Massey<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a removedlink__b07a7429-54b1-4de1-b507-367abe50efb9__href=3D"mailto:=
Wbeech@flash.net">
Wbeech@flash.net</a> <<a removedlink__b07a7429-54b1-4de1-b507-367abe50ef=
b9__href=3D"mailto:wbeech@flash.net";>wbeech@flash.net</a>><br>
To: Creig Houghtaling <<a removedlink__b07a7429-54b1-4de1-b507-367abe50e=
fb9__href=3D"mailto:creig555@live.com";>creig555@live.com</a>><br>
Cc: Dave <<a removedlink__b07a7429-54b1-4de1-b507-367abe50efb9__href=3D"=
mailto:dave1massey@cs.com";>dave1massey@cs.com</a>>; triumphs <<a remo=
vedlink__b07a7429-54b1-4de1-b507-367abe50efb9__href=3D"mailto:triumphs@auto=
x.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br>
Sent: Sat, Mar 12, 2016 9:14 am<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question<br>
<br>
Ditto Dave.<br>
Just had that same problem with a recent non-TR acquisition. PO had install=
ed the higher pressure pump and the car instantly flooded as soon as it was=
turned off. Much fiddling and head scratching before I replaced the fuel p=
ump with a 2-3psi Facet and problem
was solved.<br>
<br>
Sent from my VIC-64<br>
<br>
On Mar 12, 2016, at 8:31 AM, Creig Houghtaling <<a removedlink__b07a7429=
-54b1-4de1-b507-367abe50efb9__href=3D"mailto:creig555@live.com";>creig555@li=
ve.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
Mechanical pump.<br>
<br>
<br>
________________________________<br>
From: Dave <<a removedlink__b07a7429-54b1-4de1-b507-367abe50efb9__href=
=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.com";>dave1massey@cs.com</a>><br>
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 6:52 AM<br>
To: <a removedlink__b07a7429-54b1-4de1-b507-367abe50efb9__href=3D"mailto:cr=
eig555@live.com">
creig555@live.com</a>; <a removedlink__b07a7429-54b1-4de1-b507-367abe50efb9=
__href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>
triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question<br>
<br>
Is he running an electric fuel pump? If so is it a 2 - 3 PSI unit or the hi=
gher, more common 5 - 7 PSI pump? the higher pressure may be overcoming the=
float valves.<br>
<br>
<br>
Dave Massey<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Creig Houghtaling <<a removedlink__b07a7429-54b1-4de1-b507-367abe5=
0efb9__href=3D"mailto:creig555@live.com";>creig555@live.com</a>><br>
To: Triumph List <<a removedlink__b07a7429-54b1-4de1-b507-367abe50efb9__=
href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br>
Sent: Tue, Mar 8, 2016 5:24 pm<br>
Subject: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question<br>
<br>
My friend's TR6 was running poorly. After the car had been running, and was=
turned off, I noticed drips of gasoline dropping from the port below the f=
orward carb just in front of the intake manifold. I concluded the Gross jet=
was not stopping the flow of gas
to the carb and gas was getting pushed into the engine. So I replaced both=
float valves with standard valves and also changed both floats. After putt=
ing everything back together, I ran the car for a few minutes and turned it=
off. It was dripping gas out the
same port. Looked in the throat from the air filter side and saw a small p=
uddle of gas in the lower area right in front of the venturi. As far as I k=
now, that means the gas isn't shutting off. Perhaps I didn't adjust the flo=
at correctly. Or there is something
at the fuel inlet orifice allowing gas to bypass the valve. Is there anyth=
ing I am missing here? Could the enrichment valve (choke) be the culprit? I=
haven't touched that yet. I adjusted the new float to fully close the valv=
e when the mold line of the float
was parallel with the horizontal edge of the carb where the fuel reservoir=
attaches.<br>
<br>
Am I missing anything else here?<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
Creig Houghtaling<br>
<br>
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