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Subject: Re: [TR] Alternator?
From: Roger Elliott <elliottr@rmi.net>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 18:57:40 -0600
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I have been looking for an alternative alternator.  But I would like one 
that is more easily available than most of the options I have seen.

When we were on the road in my wife's TR250, we could not find anything 
that was available locally.  All of the options like the Camaro and 
Fiesta that I have seen are about 30 years old and were not on hand.  
Everything was going to take 2 or 3 days to get to the FLAPS.

We ended up having a Lucas one shipped, from one of the big suppliers, 
overnight to our next planned stop and just made use of friendly shops 
to keep the battery charges as we drove.  Stop for lunch - found a shop 
near a restaurant.  Stopped for ice cream found a nearby shop.  Same for 
supper.

Roger


On 11/11/2015 5:45 PM, Joe Curry wrote:
>
> Anybody considering this alternator would do well to check out this link.
>
> http://www.tucsonalternator.com/PartDetails.aspx?IDNum=43217
>
> Joe
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:*Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of 
> *ptegler
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 11, 2015 4:42 PM
> *To:* Dean Mericas; triumphs@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] Alternator?
>
> Consider a Bosch Alternator...uses t he original Lucas 3 pin connector 
> and has the mount ears i nthe correct clocked positions!
> an example
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Triumph-TR6-TR8-TR250-SPITFIRE-Alternator-Generator-Bosch-55-Amp-/281799771057
>
> ptegler
>
> On 11/11/2015 3:27 PM, Dean Mericas wrote:
>
>> Ten or 12 years ago I put together a conversion kit based on various 
>> instructions I found on the web. Do a search on "Replacing generator 
>> with a GM alternator in a Triumph" and you'll find several variations 
>> of how to accomplish the job.
>>
>> The key components are a Delco 10Si alternator (used on roughly a 
>> billion GM products and available anywhere) and a wide pulley that I 
>> got from an agricultural machinery supplier. The alternator required 
>> some trimming of the mounting boss to get the belt alignment right, 
>> but its very simple. I directly wired the alternator output to the 
>> battery via a heavy duty fuse hidden inside the gutted voltage 
>> regulator case to avoid any issues with stressing out the wiring 
>> harness. I also recall installing a resistor in parallel on the 
>> generator light to get the alternator to kick in at a lower RPM.
>>
>> It works great and is completely reversible if a future owner ever 
>> wants to experience life with a 19 amp generator.
>>
>> Good luck.
>>
>> Dean
>> 1964 TR4 / 1963 Mk2 3.8 / 1974 2000GTV
>>
>> On 11/11/2015 1:00 PM, triumphs-request@autox.team.net 
>>
>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:14:27 -0500
>>> To: New England Triumphs <net@newenglandtriumphs.org> 
>>> Subject: [TR] Alternator?
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <CAJ1eQwgXP4sskxUg-FSqPS9ZTMe-AWVPbyjZTFRgAV5vDxPkpQ@mail.gmail.com> 
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>> Hey all ~
>>> I know we've been down this road numbers of times but I was 
>>> wondering if,
>>> among those who have converted to the use of an alternator, is there a
>>> model
>>> someone can recommend? Since some folks ask ****why**, I anticipate 
>>> adding
>>> electrical loads with various electrical needs and yes, I'd like to
>>> consider
>>> use of LED headlamps. Seems like the Moss conversion kit (130-058) is
>>> somewhat pricey, being north of $300.
>>> http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=%20107952
>>> Thanks!
>>> Dave Friedlander
>>
>>
>>
>>
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    I have been looking for an alternative alternator.  But I would like
    one that is more easily available than most of the options I have
    seen.  <br>
    <br>
    When we were on the road in my wife's TR250, we could not find
    anything that was available locally.  All of the options like the
    Camaro and Fiesta that I have seen are about 30 years old and were
    not on hand.  Everything was going to take 2 or 3 days to get to the
    FLAPS.<br>
    <br>
    We ended up having a Lucas one shipped, from one of the big
    suppliers, overnight to our next planned stop and just made use of
    friendly shops to keep the battery charges as we drove.  Stop for
    lunch - found a shop near a restaurant.  Stopped for ice cream found
    a nearby shop.  Same for supper.<br>
    <br>
    Roger<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/11/2015 5:45 PM, Joe Curry wrote:<br>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span
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                this alternator would
                do well to check out this link.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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href="http://www.tucsonalternator.com/PartDetails.aspx?IDNum=43217";><a 
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href="http://www.tucsonalternator.com/PartDetails.aspx?IDNum=43217";>http://www.tucsonalternator.com/PartDetails.aspx?IDNum=43217</a></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                  color:windowtext"> Triumphs
                  [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" 
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 <b><span
                      style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of 
</span></b>ptegler<br>
                  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
                  Wednesday, November 11, 2015
                  4:42 PM<br>
                  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Dean
                  Mericas;
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br>
                  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
                  Re: [TR] Alternator?</span></font><font color="black"><span
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font
              color="black" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span
                style="font-size:12.0pt">Consider a Bosch
                Alternator...uses t he original Lucas 3 pin connector
                and has the mount ears i
                nthe correct clocked positions!<br>
                an example<br>
                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/Triumph-TR6-TR8-TR250-SPITFIRE-Alternator-Generator-Bosch-55-Amp-/281799771057";>http://www.ebay.com/itm/Triumph-TR6-TR8-TR250-SPITFIRE-Alternator-Generator-Bosch-55-Amp-/281799771057</a><br>
                <br>
                ptegler<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" size="3"
                face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On
                  11/11/2015 3:27 PM, Dean Mericas 
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
          </div>
          <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"
            cite="mid:5643A4B1.5020703@austin.rr.com" type="cite">
            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font
                color="black" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt">Ten or 12 years ago I put
                  together a conversion kit based on various
                  instructions I found on the web. Do
                  a search on "Replacing generator with a GM alternator
                  in a Triumph"
                  and you'll find several variations of how to
                  accomplish the job.<br>
                  <br>
                  The key components are a Delco 10Si alternator (used
                  on roughly a billion GM
                  products and available anywhere) and a wide pulley
                  that I got from an
                  agricultural machinery supplier. The alternator
                  required some trimming of the
                  mounting boss to get the belt alignment right, but its
                  very simple. I directly
                  wired the alternator output to the battery via a heavy
                  duty fuse hidden inside
                  the gutted voltage regulator case to avoid any issues
                  with stressing out the
                  wiring harness. I also recall installing a resistor in
                  parallel on the
                  generator light to get the alternator to kick in at a
                  lower RPM. <br>
                  <br>
                  It works great and is completely reversible if a
                  future owner ever wants to
                  experience life with a 19 amp generator.<br>
                  <br>
                  Good luck.<br>
                  <br>
                  Dean<br>
                  1964 TR4 / 1963 Mk2 3.8 / 1974 
2000GTV<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                    11/11/2015 1:00 PM, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      
href="mailto:triumphs-request@autox.team.net";>triumphs-request@autox.team.net</a>
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              <pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span 
style="font-size:10.0pt">Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:14:27 
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              <pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span 
style="font-size:10.0pt">From: <st1:personname w:st="on">David</st1:personname> 
Friedlander <a href="mailto:forzion7@gmail.com"; 
moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;forzion7@gmail.com&gt;</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
              <pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span 
style="font-size:10.0pt">To: New England Triumphs <a 
href="mailto:net@newenglandtriumphs.org"; 
moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;net@newenglandtriumphs.org&gt;</a>, TR3 
Triumphs<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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              <pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span 
style="font-size:10.0pt">Subject: [TR] 
Alternator?<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size:10.0pt">Hey all ~<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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              <pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span 
style="font-size:10.0pt">I know we've been down this road numbers of times but 
I was wondering if,<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
              <pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span 
style="font-size:10.0pt">among those who have converted to the use of an 
alternator, is there a<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size:10.0pt">model<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
              <pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span 
style="font-size:10.0pt">someone can recommend? Since some folks ask <span 
class="moz-txt-tag"><b><span 
style="font-weight:bold">*</span></b></span><b><span 
style="font-weight:bold">why<span class="moz-txt-tag">*</span></span></b>, I 
anticipate adding<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
              <pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span 
style="font-size:10.0pt">electrical loads with various electrical needs and 
yes, I'd like to<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size:10.0pt">consider<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
              <pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span 
style="font-size:10.0pt">use of LED headlamps. Seems like the Moss conversion 
kit (130-058) is<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
              <pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span 
style="font-size:10.0pt">somewhat pricey, being north of 
$300.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size:10.0pt"><a 
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style="font-size:10.0pt">Dave Friedlander<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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