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Re: [TR] Distributor help

To: dave n <dave@ranteer.com>, "triumphs@autox.team.net" <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Distributor help
From: Frank Fisher <yellowtr3@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 17:56:34 +0000 (UTC)
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i also was very happy with Jeff when he rebuilt my disy.it was just a few b=
ucks more than i could buy the parts to do it myself.i did not like his sug=
gestions on initial static timing. it was horrible on my car and on 2 frien=
ds cars.i found the factory settings where best.no complaints, just working=
 the new pat into the old.
frank


      From: dave n <dave@ranteer.com>
 To: triumphs@autox.team.net=20
 Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2015 7:33 PM
 Subject: Re: [TR] Distributor help
  =20
if you send it to advanced distributors,=20
http://www.advanceddistributors.com/

they can add pertronix or leave stock, modify the curve, fix the vacuum=20
advance, etc.=C2=A0 it will be completely redone inside and out, plus look =
like=20
jewelry.=C2=A0 very affordable imho and very much worth it.

I had them do my tr6 dizzy and could absolutely tell the difference when it=
=20
came back with the pertronix.=C2=A0 couldn't have been more pleased.



-----Original Message-----=20
From: Randall
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2015 8:14 PM
To: 'Pete Ryner' ; triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Distributor help

> I have a '56 TR3 with a 40798B Lucas distributor installed.

What are the numbers on the vacuum advance unit?=C2=A0 There should be a 6 =
or 8=20
digit part number, like 54413565 and also a set of 3
numbers separated by dashes, like 2-6-3.=C2=A0 (Those are the number for th=
e=20
40795 distributor, yours will be different but similar.=C2=A0 I'd
like to have them for my database.)

> Can anyone give me an idea of where this
> distributor is used?

I have it listed in my database for 66-67 TR4A with high compression, but=
=20
can't find any indication of that in the Lucas catalogs or
Triumph documentation so it is probably a mistake of some sort.=C2=A0 A lit=
tle=20
poking around with Google turned up applications like
Singer Gazelle and Hillman Hunter.

> It obviously can be used in a TR3, but
> what is the difference from the ones listed in the parts
> books?

The functional difference will be the advance curves (both centrifugal and=
=20
vacuum).=C2=A0 Compared to a 40480 (which is listed for later
56 TR3), the 40798 gives quite a bit less advance up to roughly 2500 rpm,=
=20
then lets it go several degrees higher by 5000 rpm.

But of course, since the parts all interchange, it is quite possible that=
=20
someone has modified the advance curve to almost anything.

Mechanically, it's a model 25D so there are lots of differences with the=20
model DM2 that would be original to your 56 TR3.

> Finally, does anyone know of a place to find a vacuum
> unit for this distributor?

Any of the 25D advance units will fit and work.=C2=A0 To be on the safe sid=
e,=20
stick with one that provides roughly the same advance or
less.

Another alternative may be to have your local independent auto parts store=
=20
send it out for rebuild.=C2=A0 I did that many years ago and
was very happy with the results.=C2=A0 The result looked and worked like ne=
w, and=20
cost less than buying new.=C2=A0 Turnaround was 3 or 4 days
as I recall.=20


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 id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1428597053308_9307">i also was very happy with Jeff whe=
n he rebuilt my disy.</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1428597053308_920=
7" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1428597053308_9306">it was just a f=
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id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1428597053308_9207" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1=
_1428597053308_9304">i did not like his suggestions on initial static timin=
g. it was horrible on my car and on 2 friends cars.</span></div><div id=3D"=
yui_3_16_0_1_1428597053308_9207" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14285=
97053308_9303">i found the factory settings where best.</span></div><div id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1428597053308_9207" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1=
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pan></b> triumphs@autox.team.net <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;"=
>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, April 8, 2015 7:33 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"fo=
nt-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [TR] Distributor help<br> </font>=
 </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1428597053308_921=
3"><br>if you send it to advanced distributors, <br clear=3D"none"><a shape=
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/a><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">they can add pertronix or leave st=
ock, modify the curve, fix the vacuum <br clear=3D"none">advance, etc.&nbsp=
; it will be completely redone inside and out, plus look like <br clear=3D"=
none">jewelry.&nbsp; very affordable imho and very much worth it.<br clear=
=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">I had them do my tr6 dizzy and could absolutel=
y tell the difference when it <br clear=3D"none">came back with the pertron=
ix.&nbsp; couldn't have been more pleased.<br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"=
qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class=3D"yqt5758471995" id=3D"yqtfd88950"=
><br clear=3D"none">-----Original Message----- <br clear=3D"none">From: Ran=
dall<br clear=3D"none">Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2015 8:14 PM<br clear=3D"n=
one">To: 'Pete Ryner' ; <a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.=
team.net" href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</=
a><br clear=3D"none">Subject: Re: [TR] Distributor help<br clear=3D"none"><=
br clear=3D"none">&gt; I have a '56 TR3 with a 40798B Lucas distributor ins=
talled.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">What are the numbers on the va=
cuum advance unit?&nbsp; There should be a 6 or 8 <br clear=3D"none">digit =
part number, like 54413565 and also a set of 3<br clear=3D"none">numbers se=
parated by dashes, like 2-6-3.&nbsp; (Those are the number for the <br clea=
r=3D"none">40795 distributor, yours will be different but similar.&nbsp; I'=
d<br clear=3D"none">like to have them for my database.)<br clear=3D"none"><=
br clear=3D"none">&gt; Can anyone give me an idea of where this<br clear=3D=
"none">&gt; distributor is used?<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">I hav=
e it listed in my database for 66-67 TR4A with high compression, but <br cl=
ear=3D"none">can't find any indication of that in the Lucas catalogs or<br =
clear=3D"none">Triumph documentation so it is probably a mistake of some so=
rt.&nbsp; A little <br clear=3D"none">poking around with Google turned up a=
pplications like<br clear=3D"none">Singer Gazelle and Hillman Hunter.<br cl=
ear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">&gt; It obviously can be used in a TR3, but=
<br clear=3D"none">&gt; what is the difference from the ones listed in the =
parts<br clear=3D"none">&gt; books?<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Th=
e functional difference will be the advance curves (both centrifugal and <b=
r clear=3D"none">vacuum).&nbsp; Compared to a 40480 (which is listed for la=
ter<br clear=3D"none">56 TR3), the 40798 gives quite a bit less advance up =
to roughly 2500 rpm, <br clear=3D"none">then lets it go several degrees hig=
her by 5000 rpm.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">But of course, since =
the parts all interchange, it is quite possible that <br clear=3D"none">som=
eone has modified the advance curve to almost anything.<br clear=3D"none"><=
br clear=3D"none">Mechanically, it's a model 25D so there are lots of diffe=
rences with the <br clear=3D"none">model DM2 that would be original to your=
 56 TR3.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">&gt; Finally, does anyone kno=
w of a place to find a vacuum<br clear=3D"none">&gt; unit for this distribu=
tor?<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Any of the 25D advance units will=
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one that provides roughly the same advance or<br clear=3D"none">less.<br cl=
ear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Another alternative may be to have your loc=
al independent auto parts store <br clear=3D"none">send it out for rebuild.=
&nbsp; I did that many years ago and<br clear=3D"none">was very happy with =
the results.&nbsp; The result looked and worked like new, and <br clear=3D"=
none">cost less than buying new.&nbsp; Turnaround was 3 or 4 days<br clear=
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