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Subject: Re: [TR] GT6 Cabriolet
From: Joao Simoes <jmbs46@comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 09:04:11 -0500
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It is a 1973.

Take care,

Joao

> On Feb 28, 2015, at 8:42 AM, ptegler <ptegler@verizon.net> wrote:
>=20
> ...was just talking the interchangeability of some parts...and some not.
> What year GT6? some earlier models used a smaller axle and driveshaft flan=
ge size you might have to swap as well
>=20
> ptegler
>=20
>> On 2/28/2015 2:01 AM, Joao Simoes wrote:
>> Thanks so much for the responses. Paul, I have read your website with int=
erest. Thanks for the response!
>> My GT6 donor chassis has the 3rail trans and no OD. Which I assume is the=
 3:27, so you are saying the stock GT6 was sluggish off the line?=20
>> If so, I can the use the 3.89 diff that came with my 78 Spitfire body don=
or, right?
>> I have said Spitfire's trans too, did you say I could swap its shift mech=
anism onto the GT6 's? Why would i do that? Is it better?
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Take care,
>>=20
>> Joao
>>=20
>> On Feb 27, 2015, at 2:52 PM, ptegler@verizon.net wrote:
>>=20
>>> spit and GT6 tranny are not directly swapable.... input shafts are diffe=
rent....=20
>>> swapping shafts would require swapping laygears, which requires swapping=
 all gears.....
>>> just go with the 3rail.
>>> You CAN swap the shifter mechanisms...but not really worth the effort or=
 trying to collect all the right parts.
>>> Late Spit 1500 single rails came with a j-type o/d...doesn't 'bang' as h=
ard shifting, uses lower currents to switch the solenoid, simpler wiring.
>>> GT6 used a d-type. needs a relay and different wiring
>>> I just ever so slightly slip my clutch on d-type o/d switch out ...no bi=
g deal.  FIS6 (Fuel Injected Spit6) is running around 136 hp
>>> http://www.teglerizer.com/triumphstuff/spit6whiteyFI/spit6whiteyFI_fulle=
ngine1.html
>>>=20
>>> Has around 15K+ on it now, including  3 long road trips that included tr=
ack laps (sissy laps but still drove the tracks at speeds we weren't suppose=
 to)=20
>>> Now you CAN get j-type o/d shafts for the three rail....so you could ins=
tall a j-type on your three rail GT6 tranny...requires a full tear down thou=
gh to swap shafts.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> The 3.27 diff and a non-o/d final drive ratio is nearly identical to the=
 3.89 rear and o/d switch on.
>>> The 3.27 carrier is the weakest of all the diffs (smallest carrier diame=
ter...thinner walls carrying the ring gear)
>>> Getting off the line in the GT6 with a 3.27 is sluggish. Hence the 3.89 a=
nd o/d.
>>> There is a 3.63 avail, but matching a speedo is a pain (revs per mile er=
rors)=20
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> Paul Tegler
>>> ptegler@verizon.net
>>> www.teglerizer.com
>>> =20
>>> On 02/27/15, jmbs46@comcast.net wrote:
>>> =20
>>> Hi folks.
>>> =20
>>> I have a couple more questions on the GT6 I was hoping for some wisdom h=
ere.
>>> =20
>>> 1- I have the choice of using a '73 '3 rail' trans that came with the GT=
6 chassis or a '78 'Marina' trans from my '78 Spitfire donor car. Any recomm=
endations? I am planning on 'massaging' the 2.0 liter inline 6 to about 130 H=
P or so. I understand both trannies are equivalent in handling engine power (=
apparently not very) :)
>>> =20
>>> 2- I also understand the diffs are pretty much the same as far as power h=
andling. I plan on getting and overdrive, so is the 3.89 ratio from the Spit=
fire is what the factory used in the US. But, apparently the German GT6s wit=
h OD used the US non OD ratio, the 3:27, maybe that is better for a more rel=
axed cruise? Not planning on drag racing much, but also don't want a car tha=
t cant get out of its own way.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; 
charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>It is a 1973.<br><br>Take 
care,<div><br></div><div>Joao</div></div><div><br>On Feb 28, 2015, at 8:42 AM, 
ptegler &lt;<a href="mailto:ptegler@verizon.net";>ptegler@verizon.net</a>&gt; 
wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
  
    <meta content="text/html; charset=windows-1252" http-equiv="Content-Type">
  
  
    ...was just talking the interchangeability of some parts...and some
    not.<br>
    What year GT6? some earlier models used a smaller axle and
    driveshaft flange size you might have to swap as well<br>
    <br>
    ptegler<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/28/2015 2:01 AM, Joao Simoes
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote cite="mid:BFF7B379-B63D-47B2-B02E-35CAE2480548@comcast.net" 
type="cite">
      <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html;
        charset=windows-1252">
      <div>Thanks so much for the responses. Paul, I have read your
        website with interest. Thanks for the response!</div>
      <div>My GT6 donor chassis has the 3rail trans and no OD. Which I
        assume is the 3:27, so you are saying the stock GT6 was sluggish
        off the line?&nbsp;</div>
      <div>If so, I can the use the 3.89 diff that came with my 78
        Spitfire body donor, right?</div>
      <div>I have said Spitfire's trans too, did you say I could swap
        its shift mechanism onto the GT6 's? Why would i do that? Is it
        better?</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div><br>
        <br>
        Take care,
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Joao</div>
      </div>
      <div><br>
        On Feb 27, 2015, at 2:52 PM, <a moz-do-not-send="true" 
href="mailto:ptegler@verizon.net";>ptegler@verizon.net</a>
        wrote:<br>
        <br>
      </div>
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <div>
          <div style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE:
            12px">
            <div>spit and GT6 tranny are not directly swapable.... input
              shafts are different.... <br>
              swapping shafts would require swapping laygears, which
              requires swapping all gears.....<br>
              just go with the 3rail.<br>
              You CAN swap the shifter mechanisms...but not really worth
              the effort or trying to collect all the right parts.<br>
              Late Spit 1500 single rails came with a j-type
              o/d...doesn't 'bang' as hard shifting, uses lower currents
              to switch the solenoid, simpler wiring.<br>
              GT6 used a d-type. needs a relay and different wiring<br>
              I just ever so slightly slip my clutch on d-type o/d
              switch out ...no big deal.&nbsp; FIS6 (Fuel Injected Spit6) is
              running around 136 hp<br>
              <a moz-do-not-send="true" 
href="http://www.teglerizer.com/triumphstuff/spit6whiteyFI/spit6whiteyFI_fullengine1.html";>http://www.teglerizer.com/triumphstuff/spit6whiteyFI/spit6whiteyFI_fullengine1.html</a><br>
              <br>
              Has around 15K+ on it now, including&nbsp; 3 long road trips
              that included track laps (sissy laps but still drove the
              tracks at speeds we weren't suppose to) <br>
              Now you CAN get j-type o/d shafts for the three rail....so
              you could install a j-type on your three rail GT6
              tranny...requires a full tear down though to swap shafts.<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              The 3.27 diff and a non-o/d final drive ratio is nearly
              identical to the 3.89 rear and o/d switch on.<br>
              The 3.27 carrier is the weakest of all the diffs (smallest
              carrier diameter...thinner walls carrying the ring gear)<br>
              Getting off the line in the GT6 with a 3.27 is sluggish.
              Hence the 3.89 and o/d.<br>
              There is a 3.63 avail, but matching a speedo is a pain
              (revs per mile errors) <br>
            </div>
            <div>&nbsp;</div>
            <div>&nbsp;</div>
            <span>Paul Tegler<br>
              <a moz-do-not-send="true" 
href="mailto:ptegler@verizon.net";>ptegler@verizon.net</a><br>
              <a moz-do-not-send="true" 
href="http://www.teglerizer.com";>www.teglerizer.com</a></span>
            <div>&nbsp;</div>
            <span style="font-size:12;font-family:arial;color:#000000;">On
              02/27/15, <span><a moz-do-not-send="true" 
href="mailto:jmbs46@comcast.net";>jmbs46@comcast.net</a></span>
              wrote:</span>
            <div>&nbsp;</div>
            <div style="font-size:12;font-family:arial;color:#000000;">
              <div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color:
                #000000">
                <div>Hi folks.<br>
                </div>
                <div>&nbsp;</div>
                <div>I have a couple more questions on the GT6 I was
                  hoping for some wisdom here.</div>
                <div>&nbsp;</div>
                <div>1- I have the choice of using a '73 '3 rail' trans
                  that came with the GT6 chassis or a '78 'Marina' trans
                  from my '78 Spitfire donor car. Any recommendations? I
                  am planning on 'massaging' the 2.0 liter inline 6 to
                  about 130 HP or so. I understand both trannies are
                  equivalent in&nbsp;handling engine power (apparently not
                  very) :) </div>
                <div>&nbsp;</div>
                <div>2- I also understand the diffs are pretty much the
                  same as far as power handling. I plan on getting and
                  overdrive, so is the 3.89 ratio from the Spitfire is
                  what the factory used in the US. But, apparently the
                  German GT6s with OD used the US non OD ratio, the
                  3:27, maybe that is better for a more relaxed cruise?
                  Not planning on drag racing much, but also don't want
                  a car that cant get out of its own way.</div>
              </div>
              <br>
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