True, that anything other than minor front end damage would likely break or
crumple the support tube. I have them on CT6716LO, I have seen them in the
SPC, TRF and Moss both list them, and I have seen them in other pictures. So,
I do not have much doubt they exist. My main questions are to see if there are
original owners whose cars did not come with them or if there was a point at
which they were discontinued - or even if was an item that was sometimes left
off a new vehicle at the factory. Thanks for your feedback.
Keith R. Stewart
75 Camden Road
London, Ontario
N5X 2K2
Home: (519) 660-1916
E-Mail: keithstewart@execulink.com
On 2013-01-06, at 11:39 AM, Bob Labuz wrote:
> Keith,
>
> My matching numbers 63 came with the tubes when I picked it up over 8 years
ago. Maybe some owners removed them? Not sure why. Maybe accident damage?
>
> You are correct about the welded nut. Why have the nut if it wasn't going to
be used?
> I am not sure about the 4A, since their over-riders are different. Maybe
that is what the dealer was referring to?
>
> I looked in the parts manual and the part numbers are:
>
> 611971 and 611970 Listed as Tube, front overider to front wheel arch.
>
> Bob
>
> On 01/06/2013 11:19 AM, Keith Stewart wrote:
>> I have a 1962 TR4 (CT6716LO). I bought the car in 1966. It has bumper over
>> rider support tubes. I just purchased another fully restored TR4
(originally
>> from California). It does not have the support tubes.
>>
>> When I discussed this with the owners of the business where I purchased
the
>> car, they advised me that none of the TR4s that have ever passed through
their
>> hands have ever had the support tubes. Most of their cars have come from
>> California.
>>
>> When I look at TR4 pictures on the various owner, club, and registry
sites,
>> the photos often do not reveal the presence or absence of the support
tubes
>> because either the over riders block the view or the colour/reflection in
the
>> area of the over rider make it unclear. Of those pictures where it is
clear,
>> the majority do not have the support tubes but many do.
>>
>> Do any of you original owners have information on whether these were
included
>> or if there was a cut off date for supplying them? Clearly they were
intended
>> as there are holes through the grille for them and a welded nut on the
over
>> rider for attachment but were they perhaps dropped to save a few dollars?
>> Maybe John has a "factory anecdote" about them. TIA for your input
>>
>>
>> Keith R. Stewart
>> London, Ontario
>> E-Mail: keithstewartATexeculinkDOTcom
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