One more caveat to Tom's response: the ring gearing is different on the early
vs late starter and the pinion gear has to match.B B You can't just flip the
ring gear, well you can, but it won't last long. Actually the whole flywheel
setup is different.B I also went to the high speed starter - British Parts
Northwest had the best price at teh time as I recall. My bullet nose had been
rebuilt but I kept having issues with the rear bushing working loose, even
with loctite sleeve stuff.B Still, I prefer the sound of the old starter.
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Macartney" <macartney.john@yahoo.co.uk>
To: tfansher@comcast.net, "David Templeton" <davidt@opentext.com>
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 2:16:37 PM
Subject: Re: [TR] Tr3a starters
There's much to support in Tom Fansher's recommendation in terms of 'reviving'
what may *appear* to be a worn out starter. I gave detailed thought to fitting
my Triumph with a hi-torque unit about ten years ago, when old Joe Lucas began
to sound very tired and rather lazy. Spent some time talking to a starter and
generator rebuilder who claimed the majority of units he'd recommissioned had
nothing wrong with them that a thorough clean and a new bendix wouldn't fix.
His
price was modest and he rebuilt that unit in just under a week. Came back
looking like new! Must say that when I refitted it the results were amazing.
Leapt into life, cranked far better than it had ever done before and never
gave
me a moments trouble after that. It was money well spent, I saved a lot
through
not buying a more modern unit and the savings incurred helped to
finance other
needy issues. As Tom says, "if it aint broke don't fix it." Try
cleaning it as a
low cost alternative (?) remedy and make a later decision
based on findings
after cleaning.
Jonmac
To: David Templeton <davidt@opentext.com>
Cc:
triumphs@autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, 19 August, 2010 21:17:48
Subject: Re: [TR]
Tr3a starters
I've rebuilt two TR3's in the past couple of years and have
updated to the gear
reduction starter in both.
I bought from a private
party and had to buy another so I can't comment on good
vendors. Moss has one
but there are others. There's one difference I'm not sure
about. The TR3 and
early TR4's had a "pull to engage" starter where the drive
"pulls back into
the ring gear" and there is a bevel in the ring gear so that
the starter
engages easily. Both my reduction gear starters are "push out to
engage" the
ring gear so I removed and flipped over the ring gear so that there
was no
potential for binding/grinding. Actually, in the "new 3" when we
installed
the OD tranny, I took the opportunity to install a lightened flywheel
which
had the bevel for a push drive and so I installed the extra reduction gear
starter rather than redo the ring gear (and I had it on the shelf).
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