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Re: [TR] xmas ignition????????????

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Subject: Re: [TR] xmas ignition????????????
From: "Jim Muller" <jimmuller@rcn.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:48:43 -0500
On 26 Dec 2007 at 17:04, tom white wrote:

> Setting the points determines how long a plug fires.

Not be a nitpicking scrub, but this just slightly misses the point 
(no pun intended :-).  Plugs start to fire the moment the points open 
and, yes the firing does require a small time interval.  But the 
important issue is the time spent closed, not the time spent open.

The time spent closed is the critical period for coil current to 
build up for the next firing.  During the firing portion, as long as 
there is enough time at all, once the plug has fired any extra time 
they spend open is of no consequence.  After that the points need to 
be closed only long enough to build up the perfect current; any 
longer simply heats up the coil.  At high rpms you could run out of 
time between firings, and the most likely problem is running out of 
current-build-up time, not actual firing time.  The point being, you 
aren't really adjusting the time for firing, you're adjusting the 
time for getting ready for the next firing.

Consider:  At 6000rpm a 4-cylinder has 12,000 firings per minute, for 
5msec per firing.  Suppose the dwell duty cycle (i.e. the percentage 
of time spent closed) is 50%.  This means 2.5msec open, 2.5msec 
closed.  By comparison, 2000rpm allows 15msec between firings.  But 
if 2.5msec is long enough for 6000rpm, it should be long enough for 
2000rpm too.  So at 2000rpm the dizzy could be open for 12.5msec, and 
closed for 2.5msec.  In theory this would keep the coil cooler.  
(I've never had a coil go bad [** knock on wood dashboard] but some 
of you folks apparently have.)  Of course, dizzies don't work that 
way.  If it was set to 50% then the closed and open times would both 
be 7.5msec.

When "setting the points", one typically sets dwell by adjusting the 
maximum gap to which the points open.  If the cam lobes are symmetric 
(and the points don't bounce too much), both the opening time on one 
side of the lobe and the closing time on the other side are affected, 
both moving either closer to or further from the max-open point.  
That's why you have to set the timing last.  You have to restore the 
proper opening time which got changed when you adjusted the point 
gap.

Happy New Year, everyone!

-- 
Jim Muller
jimmuller@rcn.com
'80 Spitfire, '70 GT6+
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