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Re: tappets

To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: tappets
From: AMfoto1@aol.com
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 18:22:17 EST
Hi Paul, 
   New cam? Or freshly reground? Has it been hardened? It should be. 
   Are you considering re-using old tappets? Personally, I'd want to put in a 
complete, brand new and matched set of tappets whenever a new or reground cam 
is installed. And, I'd have each and every one hardness tested, despite being 
new and *especially* if sourced from certain major U.S. LBC vendors who take 
an attitude about parts quality that seems something like "Hey, it's good 
enough! After all it's not like that old car is actually going to be run very 
much 
or driven very hard."
    Last I heard, Greg Sulow at The Engine Room in Santa Cruz - who is known 
for the TR/Morgan 4-cylinder race engines he builds - was reporting something 
like a 50% fail rate on brand new TR tappets from various sources that he'd 
personally tested for hardness. I'd be leery of many "stock" tappets at this 
point in time and would be inclined to have any and all  tested before 
installing. 
    The latest and greatest replacement/upgrade tappets for the 4-cylinder TR 
motor are said to be GT40 with a specially fitted sleeve, available from 
www.britishframeandengine.com here in the U.S. ( or www.racetorations.co.uk in 
England). Reports are these have consistently tested to be of high quality, and 
arewell proven in the cars. These tappets are said to be hard enough to hold up 
quite well themselves and yet not be too hard as to excessively wear the cam 
flat in a very short time. I wonder if there might be some advantage to the 
slightly smaller diameter, too (which is why sleeves are needed)? Used TR 
camshafts and tappets I've seen over the years seem to show most damage, 
besides 
normal wear, as flaking or chipping at the edges of the cam lobes and/or around 
the rims of the tappet. 
    GT40  tappets are more expensive (largely due to the extra sleeve) and 
for a modestly driven car there are likely some less expensive alternatives. 
One 
is the lightened/hardened/drilled "upgades" that both BFE and Moss/Moss 
Europe offer as a performance item.   
    I bet Ted Schumcher at www.tsimportedautomotive.com could supply a good 
set, too. (And can provide quality pushrods to match, in custom lengths as 
needed.)
     www.bpnorthwest.com states they test all their tappets and, reading 
their website, seem proud of them. But I've not used them and can't say any 
more 
from personal experience.  I'm sure there are other sources I'm forgetting. 
Just be sure to shop around.
    Alan Myers
    San Jose, Calif.
    '62 TR4 CT17602L
    http://www.triumphowners.com/640  
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I sent off my tappets to Integral Cams for testing.  3 of them were found to
be no good.  I ordered 3 replacements from Moss- certainly these don't need
testing, do they?
Does it make a difference if 2 of the new tappets are put in one cylinder or
all three in different cylinders?
Thanks, Paul Dorsey
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