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From: Don Malling <dmallin@attglobal.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 21:39:39 -0400
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List,

A list member has called my attention to my comments about the cost of
Kent Prather's work. In my post (below) I said their work was "top notch
and pricey, from what I have heard".

The list member pointed out that my comments could be taken to imply
that I know Kent Prather's rates are excessive. It was a poor choice of 
words. I have no knowledge of Kent Prather's rates. Whatever they are, 
his success in his business and in his racing speaks for itself. I only 
meant that I had heard his work was top notch and not cut rate. I used 
the word pricey in the sense that "Sometimes you get what you pay for"

I paid Integral Cams $312.00 for my cam, in large part because of Kent 
Prather's endorsement of Integral Cams. I think it was a lot of money 
considering what I could have have paid for a regrind -- maybe pricey in 
the opinion of some. I gave it a lot of thought, and asked a lot of 
people. I think I got what I paid for -- I would do it again. I meant 
"Pricey" in that sense. Somtimes you get what you pay for.

It was a poor choice of words.

Don Malling



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Subject: [Fwd: Re: Installed Defective Cam. Need Advice On New One]
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 01:27:51 -0400
From: Don Malling <dmallin@attglobal.net>
To: 6-Pack <6pack@autox.team.net>, "triumphs@autox.team.net"
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Installed Defective Cam. Need Advice On New One
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 01:26:47 -0400
From: Don Malling <dmallin@attglobal.net>
To: Bob Fabie <RFabie@erols.com>
CC: triumphs@autox.team.net,  6pack@autox.team.net
References: <006001c33869$eed19520$2b9f3bd0@BKM>

Hi Bob,

You might try Integral Cams. He uses a Chilled Cast Iron Billet blank.
They are not regrinds. http://www.integralcams.com/tr-250_tr-6.htm

Mine is not in the engine yet so I can't provide first hand information,
but in the process of trying to decide on Integral, I learned that he
makes the cams for the Kent Prather Racing team. I asked Kent about
Integral, and he spoke highly of them. Kai Radicke and Bob Lang speak
highly of Kent and what he has accomplished with his MGA, and I guess
also the Integral Cams inside the engines. Kent Prather has a web site,
but I don't have it. His name is all over the web. You might check it
out. I understand he finances his racing by doing engine work for
customers LBCs -- top notch and pricey from what I have heard.

I believe Richard Good also has Chilled Cast Iron Billet blanks
available, and seems to me that Ted Schumacher does too.

Integral was expensive: $312.00 which is about the same as other new blanks.

Integral will also Rockwell hardness test and regrind your lifters. From
what I have learned in my cam buying adventure, I would have even new
lifters Rockwell tested and reground. I had Integral regrind my original
lifters. They were the original equipment.


Don Malling


Bob Fabie wrote:
   > Briefly, 1500 miles ago, I installed a Piper cam as part of a
complete engine
   > bay restoration (a mild regrind) that I purchased from British Parts
   > Northwest.) The engine idled and ran perfectly. However, I became
concerned
   > over having to adjust the valves - primarily the same one - three
times during
   > over this period. When I did it last week, it was obvious that I
would soon
   > run out of adjustment since the screw was now flush with the nut.
Today, I
   > used a dial indicator to measure the valve lift and compared the
reading with
   > the specs. of the new cam. No question about it, at least one lobe is
bad. I
   > plan to follow Hemmings instructions for removing the cam without
removing the
   > engine. It's "killing" me to have to dismantle my pristine, show 
quality
   > engine compartment.
   >
   > I plan to contact BPNW and discuss the problem. I'll report back on
what they
   > say and what they do as a result of this defective cam ( I also
purchased new
   > lifters, push rods, bearings, pistons and much else from them). I
realize that
   > this could have been an anomaly, but at this point, I don't recommend
that
   > anyone else buy a reground cam. I'll reserve comments as to BPNW
until after I
   > talk with them.
   >
   > I do not intend to buy another reground cam. I'm very interested in
hearing
   > your opinion and recommendations on brands and grinds. I would like a
higher
   > than stock performance cam, but I want a good idle - no lope. 
Goodparts?
   > Moss?
   >
   > Thanks in advance for your help. I wish I had sought it before I
bought the
   > one I purchased.
   >
   > Bob Fabie
   > '75 TR6

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