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Re: pale yellow

To: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>, Dave and Ann Smith <smithd@peak.org>
Subject: Re: pale yellow
From: "Power British Performance Parts, Inc." <britcars@powerbritish.com>
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 15:23:13 -0400
References: <3.0.6.32.20000704161725.0079f440@mail.peak.org>
Dave and Ann Smith wrote:

> To all:
>
> I guess I should have posted a more complete message the first time. I had
> the 81168 Ditzler/PPG code from a booklet called "More BS about TRs" by Bob
> Schaller. I have been unable to obtain a mix for that number. It apparently
> doesn't exist in the PPG computer system. The PPG rep on the national help
> line that my paint dealer called said that PPG codes beginning with 8 are
> blue. Go figure. In an old Dupont color chart I found a code for Pale
> Yellow but dupont didn't have a formula for the Dulux code instead they had
> a cross reference to a Mazda color that was supposedly an exact match. I
> had some mixed and had it painted onto a panel. It has a distinctly green
> cast and just doesn't look good to my spouse or me. I posted hoping for a
> new code. You have given me a couple of things to try. First I have asked
> Brian to send me his secret Dupont formula. Second I have the PPG 82043
> number to try. Maybe the national rep didn't know what she was talking
> about. Thanks for all of your inpt. I'll let you know if I find anything
> new. I am kind of fond of BRG;-)
> Dave

Dave and others looking for paint formulas:

This mix isn't really a 'secret', just time spent carefully developing the
right color.  There is no cross reference to this outside of the tinting guide
I'm providing below.  If your paint shop is not a DuPont shop, you may not be
able to use this, but here it is for reference - give this information to your
DuPont Jobber and he'll kiss you:

Pale Yellow/Primrose - Triumph '58 - '61

Chromabase  -   Cumulative Tinting Guide (Quart)

801J  HS White        254.2
843J  Bright Yellow        296.6
845J  Transp. Yellow        309.4
807J  LS Black        322.2
150K  B/C Balancer        787.4
175K  Binder        958.8


Jack's comment about not trusting the formulas in the books is very true -
these formulas have been translated many times as tints and base stocks are
updated and very rarely are they usable as a correct match.  If a known good
formula is not available to you, best bet is to uncover a unmolested section of
paint and take to be computer matched - but be warned - even the computer
matches may need to be adjusted as they look for an existing formula as a
starting point and then develop an 'alternate' to suit whatever you've placed
under the scanner.  Sometimes it does a great job, and sometimes not.  Just my
two cent's worth.

Brian Schlorff
Power British
http://www.powerbritish.com/~britcars


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