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Re: Dual master cylinder

To: Bob Kramer <rgk@flash.net>
Subject: Re: Dual master cylinder
From: "T.R. Householder" <trhouse@greenapple.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 20:15:45 -0400
Cc: "The Brooks'" <TR3A@worldnet.att.net>, Michael Fatsi <mdfatsi@home.com>, Triumph List <triumphs@autox.team.net>
References: <000b01bfaf22$d2d9c820$324c4f0c@brooks> <010a01bfaf35$17ab6820$bb1dd7d8@dadscomputer>
For the record the firewall cut out on the Doretti is narower than the
opening on the TR2/3,
Mike is working with a lockheed master cylinder .The rienforcement
brackets that generally are found on the side of the msaster cylinders
on TRs are cut off at production of the Doretti cars to allow the
fitting of the unit. FYI!

T.R.

Bob Kramer wrote:

> Check this out:
>
> http://www.trenterprises.com/tre_pages/newprods.htm
>
> Bob Kramer
> TR6, TR4A, 2.5 Saloon
> rgk@flash.net
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: The Brooks' <TR3A@worldnet.att.net>
> To: Michael Fatsi <mdfatsi@home.com>
> Cc: Triumph List <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 8:57 PM
> Subject: RE: Dual master cylinder
>
> >
> > Michael,
> >
> > I've spent some time researching this but still have a single
> > master cylinder system on my TR3A.  There are a number of
> > possibilities, none great.
> >
> > The leading candidate is quite simple.  Use a Spitfire dual
> > master cylinder.  It's a direct bolt-up to the existing bracket.
> > Unfortunately, the Spitfire M/C is about a quarter inch too long,
> > requiring cutting of the firewall to accommodate the length.
> > Conversely, the entire pedal box can be replaced with a TR6
> > pedalbox, but this requires even more sheet metal surgery,
> > something most of us avoid at all costs.
> >
> > There are a number of other British M/C's which are twin
> > cylinder.  They are not readily available in this country and
> > more importantly, since most are sized for modern brake systems
> > which are most likely power assisted, they have large cross
> > sectional areas in each of the two M/C bores and the pedal
> > pressure increases dramatically.  This is not a good solution for
> > a street car.
> >
> > I'm sorry to have to inform you that I have yet to find a bolt
> > in, no sheet metal cutting solution and I have essentially given
> > up.  In my case, however, during a M/C rebuild I discovered that
> > my TR3, a former race car with the scars of the twin tube roll
> > bar still very visible on the chassis and rear shelf sheet metal,
> > already has cutouts, apparently for the Spitfire or other similar
> > M/C in the firewall.  I am currently looking for a rebuildable
> > Spitfire M/C, but may not install it after all.  I strongly feel
> > that the single cylinder system isn't really bad if you pay
> > attention to it.  Mine gave me plenty of warning when it started
> > to fail.
> >
> > If anyone has a good (no metal cutting) dual master cylinder
> > solution for a TR3, I'd love to hear about it.
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > Jack Brooks
> > Hillsdale, NJ
> > 1960 TR3A TS69032LO
> > 1974 Norton 850 Commando Roadster
> >
> > >  -----Original Message-----
> > >  From: owner-triumphs@autox.team.net
> > >  [mailto:owner-triumphs@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of
> > >  Michael Fatsi
> > >  Sent: Monday, April 24, 2000 6:22 PM
> > >  To: Triumph List
> > >  Subject: Dual master cylinder
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  I'm attempting to find a kit for converting a single
> > >  brake master
> > >  cylinder set-up for a TR-3 to a dual master cylinder.
> > >   A friend of mine
> > >  swears that he saw an ad for just such a kit in a
> > >  magazine, but has been
> > >  unable to find the ad.  Does anyone know if such a
> > >  kit  exists?  Is
> > >  there perhaps another way to accomplish this task
> > >  that someone is aware
> > >  of?
> > >
> > >  Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > >  -MF
> > >
> > >
> >
> >


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