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14"/15" TR8 [and TR7] Rims...

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Subject: 14"/15" TR8 [and TR7] Rims...
From: Odd Hedberg <odd@triumphclub.se>
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 17:00:57 +0200
Cc: 1-Triumph List <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Friends, 
I've been toying around with a thought for some time... 
How big an interest would there be in having a batch of alloy 
rims manufactured with the original TR8 design, but with a dia- 
meter of 14 [preferably] or 15 inches? 
I guess that while trying to keep geometry with the correct 
camber, castor and king pin angles as standard, it would still 
be possible to increase the width of the rim a bit, to say 6 
or 6.5 inches. But when doing this I think the track measurement 
of the car would be slightly altered... 

If we have them made strictly for personal use and not for sale 
then at least the Swedish copyright laws would be possible to 
get around. You know the factory never offered [and the probable 
current copyright holder BMW/Rover or BMI Heritage does not 
appear to be interested in offering] anything but 13" rims so 
to have the look of the rim as the "inspiration for another 
similar, but _not identical_ product" should not be prohibited. 
And I guess this would mean a once - and never ever again - 
production run...

With the original tire dimension of 185/70-13 as the datum these 
are the dimensions possible to use on the car [staying within 
the plus minus 5% rolling circumference that is maximum sensible 
change due to speedometer and odometer error etc...] : 

145/82-13       566mm diam.     1726mm circumference
On a slightly altered old 3.5" Herald rim this would make a nice, 
slim and space saving spare tire, provided the tire load index is 
correct... 

Tire dim       Diam.   Circumf.  Rim Width         Comment
                                 recommendation
205/50-14       562     1714       6.5"
195/60-13       564     1720       6"
(175/70-13      576     1757       5"             Used on TR7's)
205/60-13       576     1757       6"
195/50-15       577     1760       6"
185/60-14       578     1763       5.5"
205/50-15       587     1790       6.5"
215/60-13       588     1793       6.5"

185/70-13       590     1800       5.5"

195/60-14       590     1800       6"
215/50-15       597     1821       7"
225/60-13       600     1830       6.5"
205/60-14       602     1836       6"
185/60-15       603     1839       5.5"
195/70-13       604     1842       6"
225/50-15       607     1851       7"
175/80-13       610     1861       5"
235/60-13       612     1867       7"
215/60-14       614     1873       6.5"
195/60-15       615     1876       6"
185/70-14       616     1879       5.5"
205/70-13       618     1885       6"

Another interesting use of a bigger diameter rim is the possi- 
bility to use it for "over all gear reduction"... For instance 
using any of these tire dimensions below gives roughly the same 
engine speed reduction as fitting one [of the very few to find!] 
2.84 Rover SD1 rear axle innards... And! It's MUCH cheaper! It 
requires a changing of the speedo drive gear to a 20 tooth one. 
205/70-14       644     1964       6"
185/70-15       641     1955       5.5"
215/60-15       639     1949       6.5"             
I don't know if it would fit in the car, or if the tires needed 
is readily available though... Worth a try? 

I checked and Rimmers wants UKP 65 [~USD 104] plus transport and 
any local taxes for one new original looking rim. Say we have 
a batch done for double that price - how many rims would be in 
the order? I myself would order at least four, probably five... 

What do You all think? Wouldn't it be nice to keep the original 
look but be able to use modern lower profile tires? Any comments 
welcome... 
Regards 
/Odd 
-- 
Odd Hedberg 
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