On Thu, 24 Jun 1999
Gernot Vonhoegen <gernot.vonhoegen@stir.ac.uk>
Wrote: RE: Correct Primer For "Red"?
choice of primer basically is a matter of personal choice. There are some
minor points as to that grey primer shows up imperfections much better than
red primer. You will as well find that modern cars use grey primer
throughout. Grey primer shows up better on dark colours as well when you
have a stone chip. If you paint the car properly it doesn't matter what
primer is underneath in terms of the top coat appearing in the right shade.
In case you haven't guessed, I always use grey primer...
Cheers, Gernot
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> From: Chip19474@aol.com[SMTP:Chip19474@aol.com]
> Reply To: Chip19474@aol.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 1999 2:30 AM
> To: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Correct Primer For "Red"?
>
>
> Good Group,
>
> What's the best color choice for primer for a paint which is "close to
> Signal
> Red but just a tad off shade"?
>
> I finished spraying 2 small areas on the Spit with red primer, wet sanding
>
> between coats and afterwards. The surface looks good but then I had a
> thought that maybe I should have used another color primer. I think red
> primer is the right choice because grey primer is for lighter colors; red
> for
> "red's" and black for all other dark colors....I'm I correct on that? I
> can
> always change now....easier than after the paint is on and it doesn't look
>
> right.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chip Krout
> '76 TR6 CF57822U (Being Reborn For Y2K)
> '70 Spitfire Mk3 FDU78512L
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Here is my twopennethworth:
I have owned and driven Signal Red Triumphs since early 1981.
I have had them resprayed several times.
I have in that time, learnt through, rather expensive experience, 10 things
about painting cars.
1.If you want a good paint job, take you car to a good paint-shop which is
always busy, and you may have to wait for them to fit it in.
Do NOT take it to a restoration specialist.
2.Never, ever tell them that you are not in a hurry for the car, or say you
don't have much money, especially if it is true.
It should, and normally does cost around 2-3 times more than the original
quote, otherwise it is a poor job.
3.Get it painted in two-pack/two-component modern paint.
Old style Cellulose is simply not suitable in todays traffic
conditions/climate.
4.On Signal Red cars, always use White Undercoat/Primer.
This is because the red pigment is not a solid colour, in fact it is rather
translucent.
If you use red primer, then you will get an orangy-signal-red.
If you use grey primer, you will get a bluey-signal-red.
whereas if you use white primer, you will get a very-red-signal-red.
I know, I have tried them all.
5.Jaguar & Rolls Royce Signal Reds should be just the same as Triumph Signal
Red.
(Whatever the owners of Jaguars and RR motor cars may say to the contrary)
6.The best red, with the most red pigment in it is Mazda Red.
(It cost Mazda an obscene amount of money to achieve!)
7.Preperation is absolutely everything in making the best paintjob.
(That means taking it down to bare metal everywhere, and cutting out all
rust.)
8.Some high-quality bondo' is permissible if used correctly by an experienced
body man, but just to even out panels which may not be perfectly flat.
9.Primer and Undercoat is porous to rain.
10.Dust and flies are the ultimate enemy of top-coats.
Just my 2c worth.
Good Luck
Leon F Guyot
Signal Red 67 Triumph Herald Cv. (1981-1998)
Signal Red 63 Triumph Vitesse Cv (1984-1999)
'Peugeot Red' 90 Peugeot 405 GLD (1991-1999)
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