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RE: Quote for repairs, a rip?

To: Andrew Mace <amace@unix2.nysed.gov>, Jack Levy <jack@cocoinc.com>
Subject: RE: Quote for repairs, a rip?
From: Albert F Jones <fisher@hctc.net>
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 21:27:22 -0600
Cc: Triumph List <triumphs@autox.team.net>
References: <000401be74e4$48ba7fa0$cd7599cf@computer.cocoinc.com>
        Just as a matter of interest, and bearing in mind that Andy has already
pointed out that these figures are not intended for vehicles that have 25+
years of dirt, oil, rust and etc. on them, I thought you might be
interested to see what Mitchells lists as times for GT6.  

         I would just like to add that the labourer should be worthy of his 
hire,
and I expect that none on this list would want their salaries cut because
someone else thought that they were overpaid.  If we decide to do something
ourselves, then we can take whatever time we want or need,  to do it, but
if we are paying someone, and lets face it, we don't want anyone to skip on
brakes, then we should be prepared to pay for it, as any other job that we
undertake to have done for us.


At 01:44 PM 3/23/99 -0500, Andrew Mace wrote:
>
>On Mon, 22 Mar 1999, Jack Levy wrote:
>
>> ...I wouldn't even blink if I got this estimate form
>> my Merc 380SL, cause I know how much the parts are....
>
>Ever try to buy parts for the Merc, shopping around as we all seem to do 
>for our Triumphs? I'll bet there's some stuff (at least non-dealer-only 
>items) that can be had much cheaper away from the sign of the 
>three-pointed star.
>
>> but I've done most of this on my Spit
>> and it seems like 2.5 to 3 hours to rebuild a slave cylinder is kind of
long
>> specially if you don't have to crawl underneath to get to it, and have
>> pently of space. 
>
>You might well be correct about that one. According to a 1961 Triumph 
>Herald flat-rate manual: "Clutch Slave Cylinder. Renew, adjust rod [yes, 
>earlier Heralds had some adjustment built into the clutch hydraulics] and 
>bleed" is assigned a maximum time of 1 hour. I say maximum in that the 
>book notes that the times quoted were the maximum allowed for warranty 
>work compensation. FWIW. Note that the time quoted to overhaul a clutch 
>M/C (no mention of overhaul of a slave cyl.) is 30 minutes.
>
>So, 2.5-3 hours might be a bit long for the more accessible GT slave 
>cylinder, but I still wonder if the estimate might not present a "worst 
>case scenario"?
******************>


Mitchells states

Clutch Slave cylinder  GT6 R & R  2.0 hrs
             "                 GT6 O/H   2.4 hrs.

         {R&R Rebuild Clutch Slave 2.5 - 3.0 hrs}

Clutch Master cylinder  GT6 R & R  0.9 hrs.
              "                  GT6 O/H    1.5 hrs      
        {R&R Rebuild Clutch Master 1.5 hrs}

Brake Master cylinder GT6 R & R  1.1 hrs
             "                  GT6 O/H   1.7 hrs
        {R&R Rebuild Brake Master       2.0 hrs}

Rear wheel cylinders GT6 R & R (2)  1.5 hrs
Shoes R & R Rear      GT6               2.0 hrs        
        {Replace rear wheel cyls & shoes 2.0 hrs}
  
 
  Replace (4) brake hoses      1.7 hrs
  Mitchell doesn't list the clutch line
        {Replace all 4 brake hoses & steel clutch line 2.0 hrs}

Elizabeth Jones
Comfort, TX
 
>> There are less and less people that work on our beloved
>> Triumphs everyday, I guess if you're the only one in town you can
overcharge
>> and you'll have enough business. 
>
>But even if you're the only one in town and you overcharge, you might no 
>longer have enough business. On the other hand, if you're the only one in 
>town and you're good, honest and fair, you'll probably work long hours 
>and be fairly well compensated without gouging your customers (whom you'd 
>like to see return, right?).
>
>> Can I use anything from my 80 Spit parts
>> car on the 70 Gt6?
>
>Not a lot, really. Some of the front suspension -- wishbones upper and 
>lower, ball upper ball joints if they're salvageable; also various odds 
>and ends, but not a lot of major stuff.
>
>As I said before, good luck, and I certainly hope the shop turns out to 
>be an excellent one! Let us know the outcome, please!
>
>--Andy
>
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