Hi again Brian,
Brian Furgalus wrote:
> Yes, I remember!
> How is it coming along? I hope it works out for you.
Slowly creeping forward... Drivers door and extra bootlid is
still away getting painted, and I myself am working on the
various re-wiring projects being done:
"Flash to pass", "Front fog lights = Automatic driving lights",
"Heated seats", "Seat belt warning light European way", "Four
speakers" [might end up with six actually...], "Motor antenna",
"Four rear lights", "Four brake lights", "Hidden fuel pump cut
out switch", etc etc...
> Yes, I am inclined to at least fit original brackets, and
> original lights if I can find a set at reasonable cost (you
> can't buy Cibie here, I don't believe).
If it turns out impossible I could buy them for You over here and
ship them out to You - probably an expensive way but it would be a
pleasure to help out.
> I will fit a rear light, and only *one*; you make a good point!
> Original brackets and a second-hand light, if I can find one.
There is a big difference between the original type rear fog lights
and brackets as compared to the aftermarket types. If You buy the
original bracket - don't forget to order the two fasteners for the
rear bumper - I did! :-(
Had to get them from another source locally later...
> Are the Cibie foglights that Rimmer Brothers list in their
> catalog original to the car?
If it's the Cibie Type 35 then it is definitely period and I'm
quite convinced it was a type of foglight fitted to TR7s by many
dealers in mainland Europe, and probably on the British Isles also.
The light itself is compact [by the then standards] and made
out of metal and glass, not some damned plastic... And they fit
very nicely on the original TR7/8 fog lamp brackets. In the US
I think the most common dealer fitted ones were a [now obsolete]
Lucas unit and/or a Bosch unit. Some also reported CEV/Marshal
units when I asked around the list some time ago before deciding
on what was available - and period/correct.
> They say you can buy original type, or replacement type, and
> show a picture of Cibies, but I don't know if those are the
> "Original Type" or "Replacement" type. I guess I better ask
> them!
Specify Cibie Model 35 when You talk to them, that'll do it.
> How do the "original-type" brackets mount up to the car? Are
> there any holes provided, or do I have to make my own? Remember,
> the car has US-type bumpers (it's a US-spec car), so if the euro
> cars have mountings for the lights, they are most likely not
> there on the US bumpers.
They're there alright... The brackets mount on the car itself;
on the side of the front chassis legs, just behind the front
bumper mounts. There are a pair of holes in the underside edge
and one hole into the chassis member used for this. The last one
You have to take off the bumper to be able to fit the nut on the
bolt. Then it's just to hook up the feeder cable [it's there al-
ready] to the lamp and You're done. BTW Do take care when lifting
off the bumper. It's HEAVY! About 65-70 lbs.
The rear fog light bracket is fastened to the rear bumper, not
the car itself. Then the wires [remember to fit a separate earth
lead!] are fed up into the boot via an existing hole and grommet
and connected to the [already there!] fog light connection and
wire, and one of the rear light fastening bolt/nut for a good
earth.
> Good luck with your conversion!
> Brian
Thanks. You too.
/Odd
> Odd Hedberg wrote:
> > Brian,
> > as maybe You remember I'm reviving an ex Nevada [California spec]
> > TR8 and preparing it to be registered in Sweden... So I'm doing
> > sort of the opposite to You; Making an American car fit into our
> > European regulations - but only because I have to. If I could I
> > would keep all the US specifications, but that's not allowed in
> > some areas. I'll keep as much of it US as possible though...
> > So my definite answer to Your question is YES, do go for the
> > original brackets and lights. They are still easy to get and do
> > look right [and European...] on the car. Including the rear fog
> > light. My suggestion is that You buy only the left rear foglight
> > and bracket - that's the normal European way of using rear fog
> > lights. [Unfortunately some of the manufacturers stubbornly fit
> > double rear fogs - but that is easily mistaken for brake lights...
> > :-( ] The original wiring gives the rear fog light power only
> > when the dipped headlights is on, and goes out if You flip the
> > main beam headlights on. The reason for this is simply that if
> > You can see clearly enough to use main beams - then You don't
> > need the rear fog light...
> >
> > For the front I used a brand new set of brackets [~USD 7.15] and
> > a couple of period correct [actually 3-4 years older than the
> > car...] Cibie C35 55W Halogen foglights, just as lots of European
> > spec TR7s was fitted by the dealers over here. [They are still
> > being manufactured, btw. After some 18 million units or something
> > like that...] For the rear I got hold of a second hand unit off
> > of a TR7. It would all make Your car keep that European look and
> > heritage [together with the front parking/indicator lights etc]...
> > Go for it!
> > Regards
> > /Odd
> >
> > Brian Furgalus wrote:
> > > Hello all!
> > > Well, I am now in the throws of buying assorted supplies for the
> > > new TR7 (see webpage), and I am now in the market for foglights.
> > > The car had, up until about 1 year ago, two front foglights and
> > > one rear foglight, the rear being installed because it was a PED
> > > (Personal Export Delivery) car, and was driven in the UK for two
> > > or so years. The foglights in the front and the one in the rear
> > > were NOT original factory-type lights, but rather aftermarket
> > > units. They were, however, wired into the stock, existing wiring.
> > > My question is... what do I do about installation? Should I buy
> > > factory-type mounting brackets, front and rear, and then buy
> > > factory-type lights, or should I buy one of those universal-fit
> > > kits from Wal Mart and try to make it fit? How about the rear,
> > > should I even bother? It would be kinda nice to have those, I
> > > suppose.
> > > Thanks!
> > > Brian
--
Odd Hedberg
Pomonagatan 4 International liaison secretary,
S-74236 Östhammar Triumph Club of Sweden
Sweden '70 Spitfire Mk3 FD82497LO Signal Red
'80 TR8 EFi DHC TPZDV8AT211468 Midas Gold
E-mail: odd@triumphclub.se / odd.hedberg@bigfoot.com
Club URL: http://www.triumphclub.se/index.htm
Home Phone/Fax: Int+ 46-1731 7131 / 46-1731 8131
Geographical Position: N 60deg 15min E 18deg 23min
--------------------------------------------------------------------
|