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RE: Battery Chargers ('Maintainers')

To: "'ewcorco@erenj.com'" <ewcorco@erenj.com>, "'Joe Worsley'" <worsley@ebicom.net>
Subject: RE: Battery Chargers ('Maintainers')
From: "Pelzel, Mark - Broomfield" <Mark.Pelzel@cexp.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 14:38:27 -0700
Cc: "'triumphs@autox.team.net'" <triumphs@Autox.Team.Net>, "'tr8@mercury.lcs.mit.edu'" <tr8@mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
Joe really nailed it with the trickle charge approach.  This is similar
to a method that I prescribed in accordance with National Agency
standards (IEEE, ANSI, DOE, NETA, etc.) for maintenance of batteries
that were required for use in critical safety applications at a DOE
nuclear facility; so, I'd say it's good advice!  

The only thing that I'll constructively add is that I recommend building
a storage shelf that helps the charging and keeps you safe.  Absolutely
do not leave your charging batteries or other batteries in storage on a
concrete floor - concrete will guarantee that they will fully discharge
over a short period even with a small flow.  Also, there is some
inherent danger with storing batteries with a trickle charge (fire,
shock, etc.) - just use common sense about where you do this and with
what materials and you'll be fine.


<<<<<>>>>>>
Mark Pelzel
1979 TR7 BRG DHC
pelzelm@tusc.com
mark.pelzel@cexp.com

>----------
>From:  Joe Worsley[SMTP:worsley@ebicom.net]
>Sent:  Tuesday, November 04, 1997 3:07 PM
>To:    ewcorco@erenj.com
>Cc:    triumphs@autox.team.net; tr8@mercury.lcs.mit.edu
>Subject:       Re: Battery Chargers ('Maintainers')
>
>ewcorco@erenj.com wrote:
>> 
>> I'm considering keeping a couple of batteries from my three season vehicles
>> on a battery charger (or maintainer) through the winter.  Several
>> questions: (1) is is worth the trouble in terms of preserving the overall
>> health of the battery? (2) any units out there that you would, or would not
>> recommend? (3) is it possible to keep more than one battery at a time
>> hooked up to it?  (4) do you run them continuously, or periodically?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance for any info.
>> 
>> Ned Corcoran
>> 1971 TR6
>
>You only need enough charge going in to the batteries to compensate for 
>the internal leakage of the batteries.
>
>If you paralled two batteries you will have current circulating between 
>the two until one discharges enough to match the voltage of the other.  
>The only proper way to parallel batteries is to use a isolator diode in 
>series with each battery as is done in motorhomes and other similar 
>situations where more than one battery is charged from one source. 
>
>Automotive batteries are designed for high current drain and short life 
>compared to a battery that is designed for standby power and kept on a 
>trickle charge all the time and only used for light long term discharge 
>loads. We have standby power batteries on electronic systems that are 
>over 20 years old and still perform like new.  They are warentied for 20 
>years.
>
>Without the isolator paralleled batteries will charge charge up to the 
>value of the charging voltage and one will discharge slightly into the 
>weaker (one with lower terminal voltage) one when it is off .  If the 
>charger is a automatic (one that shuts off or comes on once in awhile to 
>compensate for losses) charger you will have the discharge cycles each 
>time it goes off. Some taper off the charge but keep a continous small 
>charge on the battery all the time.  The maintenamce current needed is 
>probably only around 100 ma.  This would be the better type to use as it 
>keeps the constant maintenace charge on all the time and would eliminate 
>the discharge cycle.
>
>Small steady output chargers that put out less than a amp or just a 
>maintenace charge are available pretty cheap at Wallmart or autoparts 
>stores. With a steady low charge you can do without the isolators.
>
>Kinda long soapbox speech huh!  You'd never guess I like to talk.
>
>Joe Worsley
>80 TR8
>72 TR6
>Tupelo, MS USA
>

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