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Re: spitfire rebuild/mods

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Subject: Re: spitfire rebuild/mods
From: Odd Hedberg <odd@triumphclub.se>
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 22:04:14 +0100
Cc: odd@triumphclub.se, MILESJE@novell2.bham.ac.uk
References: <5A8753120C@novell2.bham.ac.uk>
Fellow netizens,
I think this is the general rule, as far as we know it over here in 
Sweden, also. If John says the 1500 has a weakness in a certain area 
- then the rest of us has better follow his advice... He handles more 
bad or broken engines than the rest of us amateures will ever have a 
chance to see during our entire Triumph career...
My view also...
/Odd


Jonathan Miles wrote:
> 
> > Martin S writes (quotes?) - <  snip  >
> > "The end-of-the-line 1493cc powerplant was essentially a stroked 
> > big-bearing 1296 unit. ...  Hard driving will wear the crankshaft 
> > bearings.  Unless you replace the shells every 30-40,000 miles, 
> > the crank will be lucky to last another 
>30,000.'*********************************************************************
> > Yes, I read that quote also, but I disagree.  The rods and bearings 
> > are the same as those used in the TR6 and I don't see any major 
> > problems with bottom ends wearing out early on these engines.  
> > In fact if the same bore was used you would have over 1600 cc's.  
> > It is true that these engines don't like to rev as well, but that's 
> > owing to the longer stroke - as typical with all long stroke 'over 
> > square' engines, not the larger bearings.  I don't see any problem 
> > with any engine getting larger bearings, - (Just my opinion)! Check 
> > your oil pressure when hot, if it's within spec's then not to worry.
> 
> 
> I believe that this quote was from John Kipping in Coventry and to 
> be honest I wouldn't dismiss anything he says out of hand. He's 
> probably rebuilt or otherwise dealt with more spitfire engines
> than the rest of us put together. He's one of the biggest British
> Small chassis Triumph dealers. If you have strings of customers
> coming into your shop telling you that their Spit. 1500 engine has
> thrown its big ends after only 70,000 miles, you begin to see 
> patterns which are not obvious when you know of relatively few 
> other owners.
> For example we all know of 1500 engines which are still fine after
> 120,000 miles , but that doesn't make it the norm.  I've spoken 
> to John Kipping about this subject and his opinion is that you can 
> preempt crank wear by replacing the shells either at 35,000 mile
> intervals or when you first notice that your oil pressure is getting
> below spec. This can be done without removing the engine in a couple
> of hours.  This way the crank will almost last forever, or at least
> until you need a rebore.
> Just my view!
> Jonathan


-- 

Odd Hedberg
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