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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tag on Tiger on BAT
From: Tom Witt via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2024 12:38:38 -0700
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I'll second that for California. My brother had a Renault Daulphine that 
was last built in 1965 but sold in 1967 (apparently a tough sell). It 
was registered as a 1967. I had a Volvo PV 544 Sport. It was last built 
in 1965 but sold in 1966. Unfortunately for me that was a time period 
where 1966 and up cars had to be smogged. It must have been the oldest 
looking (looked like a '46 Ford) car ever to do a smog test. Lastly for 
whatever reason when the previous owner of my Tiger brought it from New 
Mexico to California it was registered under its JAL number. And not 
wanting to open a can of worms it remains so.

On 8/16/2024 10:56 AM, D or G at sbc via Tigers wrote:
> Yes, the Calif. DMV did, or still does, go by the registration date. 
> Have a 1942 Jeep that stated it was 1950.
>
> David Franchi
>
>
> On Friday, August 16, 2024 at 08:48:43 AM PDT, Ron Fraser 
> <rfraser@bluefrog.com> wrote:
>
>
> 1^st â?? no idea on the brass tag â?? one would think it should have 
> something stamped on it.
>
> Drmayf
>
> Yes the vin tag is near the end of the MK 1A Tigers build.
>
> I have been told that back in the day Tigers had registration dates 
> according to year they were 1^st register in the states not by the 
> year the Tiger was built.
>
> Ron Fraser
>
> *From:*Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Larry 
> Mayfield
> *Sent:* Friday, August 16, 2024 9:53 AM
> *To:* 'Jay Laifman' <jay.laifman@gmail.com>; 'Tiger's Den' 
> <tigers@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Tag on Tiger on BAT
>
> I donâ??t know about the tag on the fuel line, but the date the car is 
> advertised as a 1966 does not go with the vin number.  The B382 is  
> for a Mk 1A is it not? Rivets look OEM also.  My 1966 (registered in 
> Ventura CA in 1966 as it was sold new and the vin on it is B9471136 
> and I am the second owner having purchased it used in Santa Maria, Ca 
> in Jan 1967 second hand (yeah, have owned my car since then never 
> changed hands and has always been registered).  This car also has the 
> long shifter as well which I think does go with vin number, But 
> somebody smarter than me could check that out. .
>
> Interesting that a small brass tag can generate some curiosity, eh?
>
> Drmayf aka Lawrence
>
> *From:*Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net 
> *Sent:* Friday, August 16, 2024 6:22 AM
> *To:* Tiger's Den <tigers@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Tigers] Tag on Tiger on BAT
>
> Watching the Tiger on BAT?  The owner says it had a brass tag on the 
> fuel line from new and he and his dad have never known what it was.  
> Anyone know?
>
> image.png
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1966-sunbeam-tiger-50-2/
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    <p>I'll second that for California. My brother had a Renault
      Daulphine that was last built in 1965 but sold in 1967 (apparently
      a tough sell). It was registered as a 1967. I had a Volvo PV 544
      Sport. It was last built in 1965 but sold in 1966. Unfortunately
      for me that was a time period where 1966 and up cars had to be
      smogged. It must have been the oldest looking (looked like a '46
      Ford) car ever to do a smog test. Lastly for whatever reason when
      the previous owner of my Tiger brought it from New Mexico to
      California it was registered under its JAL number. And not wanting
      to open a can of worms it remains so.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/16/2024 10:56 AM, D or G at sbc
      via Tigers wrote:<br>
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            <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Yes, the Calif. DMV did,
              or still does, go by the registration date. Have a 1942
              Jeep that stated it was 1950.</div>
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          <div> On Friday, August 16, 2024 at 08:48:43 AM PDT, Ron
            Fraser <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
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                  <p class="ydpf3a1ce73yiv7754986784MsoNormal"><span
                      
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">1<sup>st</sup>
                      â?? no idea on the brass tag â?? one would think it
                      should have something stamped on it.</span></p>
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                      style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">
                       </span></p>
                  <p class="ydpf3a1ce73yiv7754986784MsoNormal"><span
                      
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Drmayf</span></p>
                  <p class="ydpf3a1ce73yiv7754986784MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Yes
                      the vin tag is near the end of the MK 1A Tigers
                      build.</span></p>
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                      style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">
                       </span></p>
                  <p class="ydpf3a1ce73yiv7754986784MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">I
                      have been told that back in the day Tigers had
                      registration dates according to year they were 
1<sup>st</sup>
                      register in the states not by the year the Tiger
                      was built.</span></p>
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                      style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">
                       </span></p>
                  <p class="ydpf3a1ce73yiv7754986784MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Ron
                      Fraser</span></p>
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                       </span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> Tigers
                            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net";>&lt;tigers-bounces@autox.team.net&gt;</a>
 <b>On
                              Behalf Of </b>Larry Mayfield<br
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                            <b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 16, 2024 9:53 AM<br
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                            <b>To:</b> 'Jay Laifman'
                            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:jay.laifman@gmail.com";>&lt;jay.laifman@gmail.com&gt;</a>; 'Tiger's 
Den'
                            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>&lt;tigers@autox.team.net&gt;</a><br
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                            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Tag on Tiger on
                            BAT</span></p>
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                    <p class="ydpf3a1ce73yiv7754986784MsoNormal">  </p>
                    <p class="ydpf3a1ce73yiv7754986784MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">I donâ??t
                        know about the tag on the fuel line, but the
                        date the car is advertised as a 1966 does not go
                        with the vin number.  The B382 is  for a Mk 1A
                        is it not? Rivets look OEM also.  My 1966
                        (registered in Ventura CA in 1966 as it was sold
                        new and the vin on it is B9471136 and I am the
                        second owner having purchased it used in Santa
                        Maria, Ca in Jan 1967 second hand (yeah, have
                        owned my car since then never changed hands and
                        has always been registered).  This car also has
                        the long shifter as well which I think does go
                        with vin number, But somebody smarter than me
                        could check that out. . </span></p>
                    <p class="ydpf3a1ce73yiv7754986784MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">  </span></p>
                    <p class="ydpf3a1ce73yiv7754986784MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Interesting
                        that a small brass tag can generate some
                        curiosity, eh? </span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">  </span></p>
                    <p class="ydpf3a1ce73yiv7754986784MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Drmayf
                        aka Lawrence</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">  </span></p>
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                    <p class="ydpf3a1ce73yiv7754986784MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span
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                        Tigers [<a shape="rect"
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                        <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jay Laifman<br clear="none">
                        <b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 16, 2024 6:22 AM<br
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                        <b>To:</b> Tiger's Den &lt;<a shape="rect"
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                        <b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Tag on Tiger on BAT</span></p>
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                      <p class="ydpf3a1ce73yiv7754986784MsoNormal">Watching
                        the Tiger on BAT?  The owner says it had a brass
                        tag on the fuel line from new and he and his dad
                        have never known what it was.  Anyone know?</p>
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