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There were two Sunbeam dealers in Rhode Island. Picard motors in North Smith=
field, and another in Newport whose name I don=E2=80=99t recall.=20
Both long gone.=20
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 24, 2022, at 9:22 AM, Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> Allan
> =20
> According to TBON there were 2 Hillman and Sunbeam dealers a Service Deale=
r and a Singer dealer in Atlanta
> Import Motors Ltd
> Lander Auto Parts Inc.
> Buckhead Foreign Car Center Inc. =E2=80=93 Service Dealer
> Southeastern Sports Car Center Inc. =E2=80=93 Singer Dealer
> =20
> West coast executive offices
> LA and San Francisco
> =20
> East coast offices
> Long Island City and New York City
> =20
> =20
> I believe most of the MK IIs had to be shipped to Canada for some technica=
lity. (?)
> =20
> Ron Fraser
> =20
> =20
> =20
> From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Allan Ballard
> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2022 5:07 PM
> To: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad@comcast.net>; Tiger List List <tigers@autox.=
team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Original Tiger Port of Entry and Sales Information
> =20
> Thanks for this very interesting commentary.
> =20
> I=E2=80=99ve always wondered how Sunbeam distribution across the country t=
ook place. My Mk1a is
> An Oklahoma car for example.
> =20
> Here in Atlanta there were only a few Tigers on the streets in the 60=E2=80=
=99s. I don=E2=80=99t know if there
> Was a dealership or not. Used Tigers and Alpines were sold out of the Atla=
nta newspaper=E2=80=99s classified
> ads for =E2=80=9CBritish cars.=E2=80=9D=20
> =20
> That=E2=80=99s where I found my first Tiger, a Midnight Blue Mk1.
> =20
> I recall reading about MkII=E2=80=99s but seeing just one. I=E2=80=99ve co=
me to appreciate MkII styling
> But back in the day the absence of side =E2=80=9Cstripe=E2=80=9D left me s=
keptical.
> =20
> Allan Ballard
> -Atlanta
>=20
>=20
> On Aug 23, 2022, at 2:07 PM, GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad@comcast.net> wrote:=
> =20
> For sure they came into the port at LA(Long Beach?).
> =20
> The 80% (I think) is just a number out of his A$$...
> He was back east or Canada, he didn't get one new, just many years later (=
I think).
> The hot rod scene was California and the weather definetly favors a conver=
tible.
> =20
> But he was right, most came to the west coast due to demand. That is why y=
ou
> see more MK2s back east, by the time they came out, everyone in the west a=
lready
> had a MK1 with a 289 (info from the late Paul Reisentz).
> Gary
> =20
> On 08/23/2022 10:47 AM steve wick via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote=
:
> =20
> =20
> I don't have definitive information, but the cars could have been all deli=
vered to east coast ports, then transported from there. Where they would hav=
e been sold was just a function of where the dealers in the network were loc=
ated.
> =20
> Steve
> =20
> =20
> =20
> From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Brian Glenn via T=
igers <tigers@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 9:58 PM
> To: Tigers Den <tigers@autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Tigers] Original Tiger Port of Entry and Sales Information
> =20
> All,
> I was reviewing a well researched 1995 article What is a Sunbeam Tiger? li=
sted on the STOA website by Von Levandowski from Cobra Magazine.
> In it, he states "While about 80% of the original Tiger sales were located=
on the west coast, ownership opportunities now exist nationwide."
> While I knew the majority of Tigers were delivered to California, I had ne=
ver heard it quantified.
> Our Tiger research has always lacked data on delivery ports and retail out=
let distribution.
> =20
> Does anyone know from where this 80% figure was obtained?
> Does anyone have additional or contradictory information/documentation on p=
orts of entry and retail distribution?
> Thanks in advance.
> Cheers
> B
> =20
> Brian Glenn=20
> P.O. Box 578=20
> Julian, CA 92036-0578=20
> 714.345.9883=20
>=20
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> B9472615LRXFE=20
> B382000846LRXFE=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">There were two Sunbeam dealers in Rhode Isl=
and. Picard motors in North Smithfield, and another in Newport whose name I d=
on=E2=80=99t recall. <div>Both long gone. <br><br><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On A=
ug 24, 2022, at 9:22 AM, Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com> wrote:<br><=
br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<m=
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oNormal">Allan<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal">According to TBON there were 2 Hillman and Sunbeam dealer=
s a Service Dealer and a Singer dealer in Atlanta<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal">Import Motors Ltd<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Lander Aut=
o Parts Inc.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Buckhead Foreign Car Cente=
r Inc. =E2=80=93 Service Dealer<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Southea=
stern Sports Car Center Inc. =E2=80=93 Singer Dealer<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">West coast executive=
offices<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">LA and San Francisco<o:p></o:p=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">East=
coast offices<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Long Island City and New=
York City<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I believe most o=
f the MK IIs had to be shipped to Canada for some technicality. (?)<o:p></o:=
p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ron=
Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p=
><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt=
0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Tigers <tigers-bounces@=
autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Allan Ballard<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday=
, August 23, 2022 5:07 PM<br><b>To:</b> GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad@comcast=
.net>; Tiger List List <tigers@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b> R=
e: [Tigers] Original Tiger Port of Entry and Sales Information<o:p></o:p></p=
></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al">Thanks for this very interesting commentary.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=E2=80=
=99ve always wondered how Sunbeam distribution across the country took place=
. My Mk1a is<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">An Oklaho=
ma car for example.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Here in Atlanta there were on=
ly a few Tigers on the streets in the 60=E2=80=99s. I don=E2=80=99t know if t=
here<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Was a dealership or not=
. Used Tigers and Alpines were sold out of the Atlanta newspaper=E2=80=99s c=
lassified<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">ads for =E2=80=9CB=
ritish cars.=E2=80=9D <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">That=E2=80=99s where I=
found my first Tiger, a Midnight Blue Mk1.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I rec=
all reading about MkII=E2=80=99s but seeing just one. I=E2=80=99ve come to a=
ppreciate MkII styling<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">But b=
ack in the day the absence of side =E2=80=9Cstripe=E2=80=9D left me skeptica=
l.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></di=
v><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Allan Ballard<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal">-Atlanta<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom=
:5.0pt"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Aug 23, 2022, at 2:07 PM, GARY WINBLA=
D <<a href=3D"mailto:garywinblad@comcast.net";>garywinblad@comcast.net</a>=
> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>=
<div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">For sure they came into the port at LA=
(Long Beach?). <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> <=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">The 80% (I think) is just a numbe=
r out of his A$$... <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">He was b=
ack east or Canada, he didn't get one new, just many years later (I think). <=
o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">The hot rod scene was Califo=
rnia and the weather definetly favors a convertible. <o:p></o:p></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal">But he was right, most came to the west coast due to demand. That=
is why you <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">see more MK2s b=
ack east, by the time they came out, everyone in the west already <o:p></o:p=
></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">had a MK1 with a 289 (info from=
the late Paul Reisentz). <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">G=
ary <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></=
div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">On 08/23/2022 10:47 AM steve wick via Tigers <<a href=3D"m=
ailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p=
></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">I don't have definitive information, but the c=
ars could have been all delivered to east coast ports, then transported from=
there. Where they would have been sold was just a function of where the dea=
lers in the network were located. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">Steve <o:p><=
/o:p></span></p></div><div id=3D"signature_bookmark"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<o:p> </o:p></p></div><div id=3D"appendonsend"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D=
"center" style=3D"text-align:center"><hr size=3D"2" width=3D"98%" align=3D"c=
enter"></div><div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><strong><span s=
tyle=3D"font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></strong> Ti=
gers <<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net";>tigers-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net</a>> on behalf of Brian Glenn via Tigers <<a href=3D"mailt=
o:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a>><br><strong><span styl=
e=3D"font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Sent:</span></strong> Monda=
y, August 22, 2022 9:58 PM<br><strong><span style=3D"font-family:"Calib=
ri",sans-serif">To:</span></strong> Tigers Den <<a href=3D"mailto:ti=
gers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a>><br><strong><span style=3D=
"font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Subject:</span></strong> [Tiger=
s] Original Tiger Port of Entry and Sales Information <o:p></o:p></p><div><p=
class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica N=
eue"">All, <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">I was re=
viewing a well researched 1995 article <em><span style=3D"font-family:"=
Helvetica Neue"">What is a Sunbeam Tiger?</span></em> listed on the STO=
A website by Von Levandowski from Cobra Magazine. <o:p></o:p></span></p></di=
v><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Helvetica Neue"">In it, he states "</span><span style=3D"font-size:=
12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0A0A0A">While about 8=
0% of the original Tiger sales were located on the west coast, ownership opp=
ortunities now exist nationwide.</span><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:"Helvetica Neue"">" <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica=
Neue"">While I knew the majority of Tigers were delivered to Californi=
a, I had never heard it quantified. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica N=
eue"">Our Tiger research has always lacked data on delivery ports and r=
etail outlet distribution. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"=
;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">Does anyone kno=
w from where this 80% figure was obtained? <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Hel=
vetica Neue"">Does anyone have additional or contradictory information/=
documentation on ports of entry and retail distribution? <o:p></o:p></span><=
/p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-fa=
mily:"Helvetica Neue"">Thanks in advance. <o:p></o:p></span></p></=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:=
"Helvetica Neue"">Cheers <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=
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tyle=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><o:p> =
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
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