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Thanks to all for the ideas.=C2=A0 Keep them coming.
Actually the brakes were\are locked up even without the plunger being attac=
hed to the brake pedal.=C2=A0 When the plunger is hook up via the clovis pi=
n, the pedal is still about 1/2" from hitting the cowl or whatever you want=
to call the metal body just above the pedals.
Also this was purchased from SS back in 2013 part # HP42 but not run until =
about 3 years ago so I am thinking, cannot remember for sure, that the plun=
ger came with the brake master back then or not.=C2=A0 It looks relatively =
new.=C2=A0 Also the dust boot appears to attach on the inside of the MC and=
not over the top on the outside.
I looked at Curt's brake master and the plunger is adjustable at the 'u' vi=
a 2 nuts.=C2=A0 Plus the dust boot does sit on the outside top of the MC an=
d not inside.=C2=A0 Design issue 8 years ago?
Since the plunger was maybe locking up the brakes when we installed, maybe,=
that is why we did not install the washer on the inside of the circlip.=C2=
=A0 It worked and we just moved forward.=C2=A0 Fast forward 3-5 years, that=
was probably not a good decision.
I like the idea of maybe too much fluid inside the MC not allowing the blee=
d back hole open.=C2=A0 Will try and open a brake bleeder and let a little =
fluid out.
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eam.net <tigers-request@autox.team.net> wrote:=20
Perhaps the piston was too far out before. =C2=A0So there is too much flui=
d in the MC. =C2=A0Crack open one slave to release the excess and see if th=
at takes care of it.=C2=A0
With hose, etc. of course
If the plunger is too long it will not retract enough to open the bleed-bac=
k hole in the master cylinder.=C2=A0 I had this problem when I installed a =
new master cylinder that had a too long plunger.=C2=A0 It seemed to work ok=
ay until I got a few blocks from home and it locked up.=C2=A0 The front bra=
kes got hot and cooked the rubber pieces and I had to rebuild everything.
I don=E2=80=99t think my comment really works. =C2=A0I think as Joe pointed=
out, it should flow back to the reservoir. =C2=A0Although I don=E2=80=99t =
understand how a plunger that is too long could cause problems either. =C2=
=A0If the plunger it too long, that will just cause the pedal to be higher.=
=C2=A0Unless the higher pedal hits something and that causes the plunger n=
ot to pull all the way out.
As Joe pointed out, if it doesn=E2=80=99t come back far enough, then the ho=
le to the reservoir won=E2=80=99t get uncovered. =C2=A0Maybe the piston or =
the round end of the plunger are wrong, and not allowing the piston to set =
all the way back. =C2=A0And maybe that=E2=80=99s why someone assembled it b=
efore with the disk outside of the circlip.
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Perhaps the piston was too far out before. =C2=A0So there is too much fluid=
in the MC. =C2=A0Crack open one slave to release the excess and see if tha=
t takes care of it.=C2=A0
With hose, etc. of course
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wrote:
=EF=BB=BF Now I am confused. =C2=A0Take out circle clip , insert plunger, t=
hen washer, reinsert =C2=A0circle clip, dust boot, return spring, 3/4 cup. =
=C2=A0Place u end of plunger in brake pedal, insert Clovis pin, insert cott=
er.
Brakes are now engaged and locked up with no pedal being applied.
What is going on? =C2=A0Ideas?
Thanks
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=C2=A0 1. Re: Tigers Digest, Vol 15, Issue 89 (Ron Fraser)
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https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=3Dgirling+master+brake+repair+youtube&=
&view=3Ddetail&mid=3DDF31F3F9694CCB04558EDF31F3F9694CCB04558E&&FORM=3DVRDGA=
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Here is a YouTube that might help you understand the assembly.
The disc on the rod goes into the bore then the circlip fits into the bore =
holding everything in.
The hardest part is getting a new rubber boot on without splitting it which=
rarely happens.
=C2=A0
Ron Fraser=20
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igers
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2022 1:01 PM
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 15, Issue 89
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On Thursday, February 17, 2022, 05:36:52 AM EST, Joel Martin <jmartiniii@ya=
hoo.com> wrote:=20
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=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Hello all.
=C2=A0
I pulled apart the brake actuator today and the whole thing just fell out o=
f the rubber boot?=C2=A0 Rubber boot was split.=C2=A0 There is a circle cli=
p up next to the master cylinder plunger still in place.
=C2=A0
Here is a picture of my brake setup which does not match the picture below =
from the workshop manual.
=C2=A0
My question:=C2=A0 How is the brake actuating rod retained in the master cy=
linder so it will not come out?
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
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=C2=A0 1. Brake Pedal (Joel Martin)
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=C2=A0 3. Re: Brake Pedal (Will Seay)
1966 Tiger MK 1A
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=C2=A0
Thanks
There are so many oddities here. =C2=A0First, at one end, the plunger shoul=
d =C2=A0have a disc at the end, with a circlip that holds it in. =C2=A0That=
rubber boot would likely hold in the disc, even if the circlip broke. =C2=
=A0So since it =E2=80=9Ccame out=E2=80=9D of the rubber, it sounds like the=
center of the disc is some how flawed. =C2=A0But FWIW, I can=E2=80=99t ima=
gine how that would happen unless something was quite odd in the assembly.
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
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wrote:
=C2=A0
1966 Tiger MK 1A
=C2=A0
I had a little scare the other day backing out of the DMV parking lot.=C2=
=A0 No Brakes.=C2=A0 Discovered that the brake plunger had come out of the =
rubber sleeve going into the master cylinder.
=C2=A0
The only thing that could have happened is when I got out, my foot pulled t=
he pedal back towards the interior and this pulled the plunger out.
=C2=A0
It only had the spring, plunger and rubber plug to hold the plunger into th=
e master cylinder.
=C2=A0
Is there suppose to be something else to hold the plunger in place?
=C2=A0
Thanks
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Joel,
Your master cylinder was apparently assembled without the circlip.=C2=A0 Se=
e #2 in the attached from the workshop manual.
=C2=A0
Will - 382001570=20
Tigers@embarqmail.com
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On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 7:28 PM Joel Martin via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.n=
et> wrote:
1966 Tiger MK 1A
=C2=A0
I had a little scare the other day backing out of the DMV parking lot.=C2=
=A0 No Brakes.=C2=A0 Discovered that the brake plunger had come out of the =
rubber sleeve going into the master cylinder.
=C2=A0
The only thing that could have happened is when I got out, my foot pulled t=
he pedal back towards the interior and this pulled the plunger out.
=C2=A0
It only had the spring, plunger and rubber plug to hold the plunger into th=
e master cylinder.
=C2=A0
Is there suppose to be something else to hold the plunger in place?
=C2=A0
Thanks
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Yup, it was assembled WRONG.=20
Yes, it appears to be assembled according to the photo that was posted f=
rom the=20
shop manual... which is wrong.=20
=20
The circlip must retain the washer that is captive on the pushrod.=C2=A0=
Pushrod should NOT=20
fall out loose from the master cylinder assembly.=20
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Hopefully you did not sustain any injury or damage to your Tiger.=20
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That totally matches what I would expect to see. =C2=A0That round disc sho=
uld have been on the inside of the clip. =C2=A0So either it was not assembl=
ed that way, which is odd. =C2=A0Or perhaps the disk is a smaller OD than t=
he ID of the MC and the clip.=20
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I pulled apart the brake actuator today and the whole thing just fell ou=
t of the rubber boot?=C2=A0 Rubber boot was split.=C2=A0 There is a circle =
clip up next to the master cylinder plunger still in place.=20
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Here is a picture of my brake setup which does not match the pictur=
e below from the workshop manual. =20
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cylinder so it will not come out? =20
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There are so many oddities here. =C2=A0First, at one end, the plun=
ger should =C2=A0have a disc at the end, with a circlip that holds it in. =
=C2=A0That rubber boot would likely hold in the disc, even if the circlip b=
roke. =C2=A0So since it =E2=80=9Ccame out=E2=80=9D of the rubber, it sounds=
like the center of the disc is some how flawed. =C2=A0But FWIW, I can=E2=
=80=99t imagine how that would happen unless something was quite odd in the=
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I had a little scare the other day backing out of the DMV parking lot.=
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he rubber sleeve going into the master cylinder. =20
The only thing that could have happened is when I got out, my foot pulle=
d the pedal back towards the interior and this pulled the plunger out. =20
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<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"ydp3a03e22fyahoo-style-wrap" style=
=3D"font-family:garamond, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px;"><div></di=
v>
<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Thanks to all for the ideas.=
Keep them coming.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Actually the brakes were\are=
locked up even without the plunger being attached to the brake pedal. =
; When the plunger is hook up via the clovis pin, the pedal is still about =
1/2" from hitting the cowl or whatever you want to call the metal body just=
above the pedals.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Also this was purchased from SS back i=
n 2013 part # HP42 but not run until about 3 years ago so I am thinking, ca=
nnot remember for sure, that the plunger came with the brake master back th=
en or not. It looks relatively new. Also the dust boot appears =
to attach on the inside of the MC and not over the top on the outside.</div=
><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-set=
dir=3D"false">I looked at Curt's brake master and the plunger is adjustable=
at the 'u' via 2 nuts. Plus the dust boot does sit on the outside to=
p of the MC and not inside. Design issue 8 years ago?<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"=
false">Since the plunger was maybe locking up the brakes when we installed,=
maybe, that is why we did not install the washer on the inside of the circ=
lip. It worked and we just moved forward. Fast forward 3-5 year=
s, that was probably not a good decision.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=
=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I like the idea=
of maybe too much fluid inside the MC not allowing the bleed back hole ope=
n. Will try and open a brake bleeder and let a little fluid out.</div=
><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-set=
dir=3D"false"><br></div><div><br></div>
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div><div><br></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><div><div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Perhaps the piston was too far out before. So there is=20
too much fluid in the MC. Crack open one slave to release the excess=
=20
and see if that takes care of it. </div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">With hose, etc. of course</div></div><div><br></div><div><br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><span>If the plunger is too lo=
ng it will not retract enough to open the=20
bleed-back hole in the master cylinder. I had this problem when I=20
installed a new master cylinder that had a too long plunger. It seeme=
d=20
to work okay until I got a few blocks from home and it locked up. The=
=20
front brakes got hot and cooked the rubber pieces and I had to rebuild=20
everything.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div>I don=E2=80=99t think m=
y comment really works. I think as Joe pointed out, it should flow ba=
ck to the reservoir. <div class=3D"ydp5a440131yiv0574618645">Although
I don=E2=80=99t understand how a plunger that is too long could cause prob=
lems=20
either. If the plunger it too long, that will just cause the pedal to=
=20
be higher. Unless the higher pedal hits something and that causes the=
=20
plunger not to pull all the way out.</div><div class=3D"ydp5a440131yiv05746=
18645"><br class=3D"ydp5a440131yiv0574618645" clear=3D"none"></div>As
Joe pointed out, if it doesn=E2=80=99t come back far enough, then the hole=
to=20
the reservoir won=E2=80=99t get uncovered. Maybe the piston or the ro=
und end of
the plunger are wrong, and not allowing the piston to set all the way=20
back. And maybe that=E2=80=99s why someone assembled it before with t=
he disk=20
outside of the circlip.</div></div><div><br></div></div>
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line so it is more specific<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">than "Re: Contents o=
f Tigers digest..."<br></div>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: Tigers D=
igest, Vol 15, Issue 103 (Jay Laifman)<br><div id=3D"ydpa52d1e99ymsg86230" =
class=3D"ydpa52d1e99ymsg0735025421"><div id=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725"><d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Perhaps the piston was too far o=
ut before. So there is too much fluid in the MC. Crack open one=
slave to release the excess and see if that takes care of it. </div><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">With hose, etc. of course</div><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Feb 19, 2022, at 2:39 PM, =
Joel Martin via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:<br><br></blockq=
uote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div style=
=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px=
;" class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yahoo-style-wrap"><div></div=
>
<div>Now I am confused. Take out circle clip , insert plunger=
, then washer, reinsert circle clip, dust boot, return spring, 3/4 cu=
p. Place u end of plunger in brake pedal, insert Clovis pin, insert c=
otter.</div><div><br></div><div>Brakes are now engaged and locked up with n=
o pedal being applied.</div><div><br></div><div>What is going on? Ide=
as?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks</div><div><br></div>
=20
<div id=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yahoo_quoted_53307447=
38" class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yahoo_quoted">
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ans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
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On Thursday, February 17, 2022, 04:28:45 PM EST, <t=
igers-request@autox.team.net> wrote:
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<div><div dir=3D"ltr">Send Tigers mailing list submissions =
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'help' to<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <a href=3D"mailto:t=
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uest@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">You can reach the person managing the list at<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
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ollow" target=3D"_blank">tigers-owner@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">When replying, please edit your Subject=
line so it is more specific<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">than "Re: Contents o=
f Tigers digest..."<br></div>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: Tigers D=
igest, Vol 15, Issue 89 (Ron Fraser)<br> 2. Re: Tigers Digest, Vol 1=
5, Issue 89 (GARY WINBLAD)<br><div id=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp6213880=
7ymsg44263" class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807ymsg6745038017"><di=
v id=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766"><div><div class=
=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766WordSection1"><p class=
=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><a href=3D"h=
ttps://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=3Dgirling+master+brake+repair+youtube&a=
mp;&view=3Ddetail&mid=3DDF31F3F9694CCB04558EDF31F3F9694CCB04558E&am=
p;&FORM=3DVRDGAR&ru=3D%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dgirling%2520master%2=
520brake%2520repair%2520youtube%26%26FORM%3DVDVVXX" rel=3D"nofollow" target=
=3D"_blank">https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=3Dgirling+master+brake+rep=
air+youtube&&view=3Ddetail&mid=3DDF31F3F9694CCB04558EDF31F3F969=
4CCB04558E&&FORM=3DVRDGAR&ru=3D%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dgirling=
%2520master%2520brake%2520repair%2520youtube%26%26FORM%3DVDVVXX</a></p><p c=
lass=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"> <=
/p><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"> =
</p><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNo=
rmal">Here is a YouTube that might help you understand the assembly.</p><p =
class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal">The dis=
c on the rod goes into the bore then the circlip fits into the bore holding=
everything in.</p><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv012551=
5766MsoNormal">The hardest part is getting a new rubber boot on without spl=
itting it which rarely happens.</p><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp6=
2138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572=
725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal">Ron Fraser </p><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e9=
9yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"> </p><div><div style=
=3D"border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentcolor currentcolor; border-styl=
e: solid none none; border-width: 1pt medium medium; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"=
><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><b>=
From:</b> Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>=
Joel Martin via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 17, 2022 1:01 PM<=
br><b>To:</b> Tiger List Serve <tigers@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:=
</b> Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 15, Issue 89</p></div></div><p class=
=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"> </p><=
div><div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond, serif;"> <=
/span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125=
515766MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond, seri=
f;"> </span></p></div></div><div id=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp621=
38807yiv0125515766ydp9d68e9cyahoo_quoted_5448102710"><div><div><p class=3D"=
ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:#26282A;">On Thursd=
ay, February 17, 2022, 05:36:52 AM EST, Joel Martin <<a href=3D"mailto:j=
martiniii@yahoo.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">jmartiniii@yahoo.co=
m</a>> wrote: </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725=
ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> =
</span></p></div><div><div id=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807y=
iv0125515766ydp9d68e9cyiv4866135215"><div id=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp=
62138807yiv0125515766ydp9d68e9cyiv4866135215yqtfd71559"><div><div><div><div=
><p style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp621=
38807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:He=
lvetica, sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div><div><div id=3D=
"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766ydp9d68e9cyiv4866135215ydp=
4386103dyiv2504392080"><div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1=
520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Hello all.</span></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNorm=
al"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color=
:#26282A;"> </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv152057272=
5ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:#26282A;">I pulled apart the brake actuato=
r today and the whole thing just fell out of the rubber boot? Rubber =
boot was split. There is a circle clip up next to the master cylinder=
plunger still in place.</span></p></div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv15205727=
25ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-f=
amily:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div><div id=
=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766ydp9d68e9cyiv4866135215=
ydp4386103dyiv2504392080yqt20913"><div><div id=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725y=
dp62138807yiv0125515766ydp9d68e9cyiv4866135215ydp4386103dyiv2504392080ydpf1=
fea175yiv7324654534"><div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp=
62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family=
:Garamond, serif;color:#26282A;">Here is a picture of my brake setup which =
does not match the picture below from the workshop manual.</span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond, serif;color:#26282A;=
"> </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138=
807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gara=
mond, serif;color:#26282A;">My question: How is the brake actuating r=
od retained in the master cylinder so it will not come out?</span></p></div=
><div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond, serif;color:#26282A=
;"> </span></p></div><div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class=3D=
"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond, serif;"> </span></p><p style=
=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0=
125515766MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572=
725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:Garamond, serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div></div><div i=
d=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766ydp9d68e9cyiv486613521=
5ydp4386103dyiv2504392080ydpf1fea175yiv7324654534ydp1f66bfb7yahoo_quoted_55=
18184998"><div><div id=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766y=
dp9d68e9cyiv4866135215ydp4386103dyiv2504392080ydpf1fea175yiv7324654534yqtfd=
09627"><div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;c=
olor:#26282A;">On Monday, February 14, 2022, 08:45:16 PM EST, <<a href=
=3D"mailto:tigers-request@autox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank=
">tigers-request@autox.team.net</a>> wrote: </span></p></div><div><p cla=
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v0125515766MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica=
, sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div><div><div><p class=3D"=
ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Send Tige=
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t</a></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807y=
iv0125515766MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetic=
a, sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpa=
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an style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:#26282=
A;">than "Re: Contents of Tigers digest..."</span></p></div><p class=3D"ydp=
a52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Today's Topi=
cs:<br><br> 1. Brake Pedal (Joel Martin)<br> 2. Re: Brake Pedal=
(Jay)<br> 3. Re: Brake Pedal (Will Seay)</span></p><div id=3D"ydpa52=
d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766ydp9d68e9cyiv4866135215ydp4386103=
dyiv2504392080ydpf1fea175yiv7324654534ydp1f66bfb7ymsg05745"><div id=3D"ydpa=
52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766ydp9d68e9cyiv4866135215ydp43861=
03dyiv2504392080ydpf1fea175yiv7324654534ydp1f66bfb7yiv7277777775"><div><div=
><div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond, serif;color:#26282A=
;">1966 Tiger MK 1A</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv15205727=
25ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-f=
amily:Garamond, serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div><p class=3D"y=
dpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond, serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></=
p><div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond, serif;color:#26282=
A;">Thanks</span></p></div></div></div></div></div><div id=3D"ydpa52d1e99yi=
v1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766ydp9d68e9cyiv4866135215ydp4386103dyiv250=
4392080ydpf1fea175yiv7324654534ydp1f66bfb7ymsg74033"><div id=3D"ydpa52d1e99=
yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766ydp9d68e9cyiv4866135215ydp4386103dyiv2=
504392080ydpf1fea175yiv7324654534ydp1f66bfb7yiv7277777775"><div><p class=3D=
"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:#26282A;">There ar=
e so many oddities here. First, at one end, the plunger should =
have a disc at the end, with a circlip that holds it in. That rubber =
boot would likely hold in the disc, even if the circlip broke. So sin=
ce it =E2=80=9Ccame out=E2=80=9D of the rubber, it sounds like the center o=
f the disc is some how flawed. But FWIW, I can=E2=80=99t imagine how =
that would happen unless something was quite odd in the assembly.</span></p=
><div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:#=
26282A;"> </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725y=
dp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p><div><p class=3D=
"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:#26282A;"><br><br>=
</span></p><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div=
><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:#26282=
A;">On Feb 14, 2022, at 4:28 PM, Joel Martin via Tigers <<a href=3D"mail=
to:tigers@autox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.t=
eam.net</a>> wrote:</span></p></div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725=
ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p><div><div><div>=
<div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond, serif;color:#26282A;=
">1966 Tiger MK 1A</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv152057272=
5ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-fa=
mily:Garamond, serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond, serif;color:#26282A;">I had a li=
ttle scare the other day backing out of the DMV parking lot. No Brake=
s. Discovered that the brake plunger had come out of the rubber sleev=
e going into the master cylinder.</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1=
e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond, serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div=
><div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond, serif;color:#26282A=
;">The only thing that could have happened is when I got out, my foot pulle=
d the pedal back towards the interior and this pulled the plunger out.</spa=
n></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv01255157=
66MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond, serif;co=
lor:#26282A;"> </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv152057=
2725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font=
-family:Garamond, serif;color:#26282A;">It only had the spring, plunger and=
rubber plug to hold the plunger into the master cylinder.</span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond, serif;color:#26282A;=
"> </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138=
807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gara=
mond, serif;color:#26282A;">Is there suppose to be something else to hold t=
he plunger in place?</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572=
725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:Garamond, serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div><div><p clas=
s=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond, serif;color:#26282A;">Thanks</sp=
an></p></div></div></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class=3D"ydpa52=
d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:#26282A;">_______________=
________________________________<br><br><a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team=
.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><br>D=
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</blockquote></div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv012551=
5766MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-=
serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div></div></div></div><div id=3D"=
ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766ydp9d68e9cyiv4866135215ydp4=
386103dyiv2504392080ydpf1fea175yiv7324654534ydp1f66bfb7ymsg71282"><div id=
=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766ydp9d68e9cyiv4866135215=
ydp4386103dyiv2504392080ydpf1fea175yiv7324654534ydp1f66bfb7yiv7277777775"><=
div><div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;colo=
r:#26282A;">Joel,</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725=
ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-fam=
ily:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Your master cylinder was apparent=
ly assembled without the circlip. See #2 in the attached from the wor=
kshop manual.</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp6=
2138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:=
Helvetica, sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div><div><div><di=
v><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:#2628=
2A;">Will - 382001570 <br><a href=3D"mailto:Tigers@embarqmail.com" rel=3D"n=
ofollow" target=3D"_blank">Tigers@embarqmail.com</a></span></p></div></div>=
</div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:#=
26282A;"> </span></p></div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp621=
38807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:He=
lvetica, sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p><div><div><p class=3D=
"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif;color:#26282A;">On Mon, =
Feb 14, 2022 at 7:28 PM Joel Martin via Tigers <<a href=3D"mailto:tigers=
@autox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</=
a>> wrote:</span></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border-color: currentcol=
or currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204, 204, 204); border-style: none none no=
ne solid; border-width: medium medium medium 1pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt;=
margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;"><div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpa52d=
1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond, serif;color:#26282A;">1966 Tiger MK 1A</span=
></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv012551576=
6MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond, serif;col=
or:#26282A;"> </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572=
725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:Garamond, serif;color:#26282A;">I had a little scare the other day b=
acking out of the DMV parking lot. No Brakes. Discovered that t=
he brake plunger had come out of the rubber sleeve going into the master cy=
linder.</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp6213880=
7yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Garamo=
nd, serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1=
e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond, serif;color:#26282A;">The only thing that cou=
ld have happened is when I got out, my foot pulled the pedal back towards t=
he interior and this pulled the plunger out.</span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond, serif;color:#26282A;"> </s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv012551=
5766MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond, serif;=
color:#26282A;">It only had the spring, plunger and rubber plug to hold the=
plunger into the master cylinder.</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpa52d=
1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond, serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p></di=
v><div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond, serif;color:#26282=
A;">Is there suppose to be something else to hold the plunger in place?</sp=
an></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515=
766MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond, serif;c=
olor:#26282A;"> </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv15205=
72725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;fon=
t-family:Garamond, serif;color:#26282A;">Thanks</span></p></div></div></div=
><p style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp621=
38807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:He=
lvetica, sans-serif;color:#26282A;">_______________________________________=
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s/tigers@embarqmail.com</a><br><br></span></p></blockquote></div></div></di=
v><p class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yiv0125515766MsoNormal"><s=
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Yup, it was assembled WRONG.
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Yes, it appears to be assembled according to the photo that was posted f=
rom the
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shop manual... which is wrong.
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The circlip must retain the washer that is captive on the pushrod. =
Pushrod should NOT
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fall out loose from the master cylinder assembly.
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Hopefully you did not sustain any injury or damage to your Tiger.
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Gary
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On 02/17/2022 1:35 PM Jay <jay.laifman@gmail.com> wrote:
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</div>That totally matches what I would expect to see. That round =
disc should have been on the inside of the clip. So either it was not=
assembled that way, which is odd. Or perhaps the disk is a smaller O=
D than the ID of the MC and the clip.
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On Feb 17, 2022, at 12:01 PM, Joel Martin via Tigers <<a href=3D"m=
ailto:tigers@autox.team.net" class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725ydp62138807yi=
v0125515766" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&g=
t; wrote:
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On Thursday, February 17, 2022, 05:36:52 AM EST, Joel Martin <=
<a href=3D"mailto:jmartiniii@yahoo.com" class=3D"ydpa52d1e99yiv1520572725yd=
p62138807yiv0125515766" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">jmartiniii@yahoo=
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I pulled apart the brake actuator today and the whole=
thing just fell out of the rubber boot? Rubber boot was split. =
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There are so many oddities here. First=
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ip that holds it in. That rubber boot would likely hold in the disc, =
even if the circlip broke. So since it =E2=80=9Ccame out=E2=80=9D of =
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On Feb 14, 2022, at 4:28 PM, Joel Martin=
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I had a little scare the other day ba=
cking out of the DMV parking lot. No Brakes. Discovered that th=
e brake plunger had come out of the rubber sleeve going into the master cyl=
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I had a little scare the other day backi=
ng out of the DMV parking lot. No Brakes. Discovered that the b=
rake plunger had come out of the rubber sleeve going into the master cylind=
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