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Wonder is there is ever a simple=C2=A0 piece of wood used in a modern car t=
o solve a problem???=C2=A0 =C2=A0Would it now=C2=A0 be plastic ??
In a message dated 10/4/2021 4:53:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, tigers@autox=
.team.net writes:=C2=A0
I think it was simpler than anyone has brought up. The car was founded on t=
he S4 and S5 Alpines which had the bat box under the parcel shelf (aka rear=
seat). And the trunk floor was made to a stamping drawing and if it needed=
to be done differently a new set of dies would have had to have been made =
($$$$). Batteries need to sit flat and so a plastic (nylon I think). I beli=
eve that originally the rear mounted tray fit the lip on the fame side. Tha=
t would =C2=A0have given the tray a side mount under as well. Bu that use i=
n the position as mentioned below required that it be spaced out a tad. Ok,=
the skinny long piece of wood behind the tray maintains side clearance for=
a few pennies. But that left the inside of the box unsupported some so ano=
ther r piece of cheap wood solved that issue. Nothing strange about money m=
aking decisions. All because they needed a place to put the electric fuel p=
ump and that place was under the parcel tray with an access door. =C2=A0=C2=
=A0
=C2=A0
Smart decisions tome.
=C2=A0
mayf
=C2=A0
From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Ron Fraser
Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 1:12 PM
To: 'Jay' <jay.laifman@gmail.com>
Cc: '<tigers@autox.team.net>' <tigers@Autox.Team.Net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] back to the battery wood packers
=C2=A0
Jay
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I don=E2=80=99t think Rootes messed up.
The trunk floor is not flat, it has a raised sections the battery sets upon=
.
=C2=A0
The side wood keeps the battery off the big rubber grommet for the rear spr=
ing shackle.
You need 2 Battery Packers was the answer.
=C2=A0
Besides, How can you have a Proper British Car if it has no wood - =F0=9F=
=98=8A
=C2=A0
Ron Fraser
=C2=A0
From: Jay <jay.laifman@gmail.com>=20
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2021 3:49 PM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
Cc: <tigers@autox.team.net> <tigers@Autox.Team.Net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] back to the battery wood packers
=C2=A0
I haven=E2=80=99t been focusing on this. =C2=A0So I might be misunderstandi=
ng. =C2=A0It sounds like Rootes messed up and the tray didn=E2=80=99t exact=
ly fit, and they needed to kludge together a bandaid to get the cars out th=
e door. =C2=A0And we=E2=80=99ve got dozens of emails going back and forth o=
n this kludge.
=C2=A0
Reminds me of the show I watched about early Corvette restoration - years a=
go. =C2=A0The expert showed how the AC or alternator bracket paint would pe=
el almost immediately after leaving the factory. =C2=A0So he had perfected =
that peeling!
=C2=A0
On the other hand, the wood piece was perhaps one of the most =E2=80=9Chuma=
n=E2=80=9D parts of the car. =C2=A0All the more reason to honor it. =C2=A0T=
hough still very funny.
=C2=A0
Jay
=C2=A0=C2=A0
=C2=A0
On Oct 4, 2021, at 10:54 AM, Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com> wrote:
=C2=A0
Under tray wood=C2=A0=E2=80=93 the offset of the body mount holes on my Tig=
er is 3/16=E2=80=9D
I made a cardboard templet per the drawing =E2=80=93 pic #1 =E2=80=93 the o=
ffset angle is acceptable to me
=C2=A0
Pic #2 =E2=80=93 battery tray over the templet =E2=80=93 in my opinion this=
sticks out too far and at the front area it is tight to the body
I will make and install this piece before I make a judgement call on its le=
ngth =E2=80=93 this is not a concours Tiger
=C2=A0
Side wood=C2=A0=E2=80=93 I made a piece per the drawing and I found that my=
body mount holes are about a 1/16=E2=80=9D closer together =E2=80=93 I ope=
ned the through holes to make this piece fit better=C2=A0=C2=A0 I made a 2n=
d=C2=A0piece with the mount holes closer and a better fit
=C2=A0
I do suggest that anyone making this piece =E2=80=93 check the body mount h=
ole distance carefully and make any needed correction.
You can make 1 mount hole, install with 1 screw and mark exactly where the =
2nd=C2=A0hole is located.
=C2=A0
Now to apply some wood preservative and let them dry =E2=80=93 I=E2=80=99ll=
install these pieces later this month
=C2=A0
Ron Fraser
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
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<div>
<div class=3D"userEdit" style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;=
font-size: 14pt; color: #000000;"><span style=3D"color: #000000; font-styl=
e: normal; font-weight: bold;">Wonder is there is ever a simple piece=
of wood used in a modern car to solve a problem??? Would it no=
w be plastic ??<br></span></div>
<br>In a message dated 10/4/2021 4:53:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, tigers@a=
utox.team.net writes:
<div> </div>
<div id=3D"yiv2674478179">
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv2674478179WordSection1">
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal">I think it was simpler than anyone has =
brought up. The car was founded on the S4 and S5 Alpines which had the bat =
box under the parcel shelf (aka rear seat). And the trunk floor was made to=
a stamping drawing and if it needed to be done differently a new set of di=
es would have had to have been made ($$$$). Batteries need to sit flat and =
so a plastic (nylon I think). I believe that originally the rear mounted tr=
ay fit the lip on the fame side. That would have given the tray a sid=
e mount under as well. Bu that use in the position as mentioned below requi=
red that it be spaced out a tad. Ok, the skinny long piece of wood behind t=
he tray maintains side clearance for a few pennies. But that left the insid=
e of the box unsupported some so another r piece of cheap wood solved that =
issue. Nothing strange about money making decisions. All because they neede=
d a place to put the electric fuel pump and that place was under the parcel=
tray with an access door. </p>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal">Smart decisions tome.</p>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal">mayf</p>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal"> </p>
<div id=3D"yiv2674478179yqt29709" class=3D"yiv2674478179yqt1835526615">
<div>
<div style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt=
0in 0in 0in;">
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal"><strong>From:</strong> Tigers <tiger=
s-bounces@autox.team.net> <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Ron Fraser<br cl=
ear=3D"none"><strong>Sent:</strong> Monday, October 4, 2021 1:12 PM<br clea=
r=3D"none"><strong>To:</strong> 'Jay' <jay.laifman@gmail.com><br clea=
r=3D"none"><strong>Cc:</strong> '<tigers@autox.team.net>' <tigers@=
Autox.Team.Net><br clear=3D"none"><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Tigers]=
back to the battery wood packers</p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal">Jay</p>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal"> &nb=
sp; I don’t think Roo=
tes messed up.</p>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal">The trunk floor is not flat, it has a r=
aised sections the battery sets upon.</p>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal">The side wood keeps the battery off the=
big rubber grommet for the rear spring shackle.</p>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal">You need 2 Battery Packers was the answ=
er.</p>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal">Besides, How can you have a Proper Brit=
ish Car if it has no wood - <span style=3D"font-family: UI sans-serif;">=F0=
=9F=98=8A</span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal">Ron Fraser</p>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal"> </p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt=
0in 0in 0in;">
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal"><strong>From:</strong> Jay <<a href=
=3D"mailto:jay.laifman@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopene=
r noreferrer" shape=3D"rect">jay.laifman@gmail.com</a>> <br clear=3D"non=
e"><strong>Sent:</strong> Monday, October 04, 2021 3:49 PM<br clear=3D"none=
"><strong>To:</strong> Ron Fraser <<a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.co=
m" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect">rf=
raser@bluefrog.com</a>><br clear=3D"none"><strong>Cc:</strong> <<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noope=
ner noreferrer" shape=3D"rect">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> <<a href=3D=
"mailto:tigers@Autox.Team.Net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener n=
oreferrer" shape=3D"rect">tigers@Autox.Team.Net</a>><br clear=3D"none"><=
strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Tigers] back to the battery wood packers</p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal">I haven’t been focusing on this. =
So I might be misunderstanding. It sounds like Rootes messed up=
and the tray didn’t exactly fit, and they needed to kludge together =
a bandaid to get the cars out the door. And we’ve got dozens of=
emails going back and forth on this kludge.</p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal">Reminds me of the show I watched about =
early Corvette restoration - years ago. The expert showed how the AC =
or alternator bracket paint would peel almost immediately after leaving the=
factory. So he had perfected that peeling!</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal">On the other hand, the wood piece was p=
erhaps one of the most “human” parts of the car. All the =
more reason to honor it. Though still very funny.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal">Jay</p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div id=3D"yiv2674478179yqt89099" class=3D"yiv2674478179yqt1835526615">
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal"> </p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"> =
</p>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5.0pt; margin-bottom: 5.0pt;">
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal">On Oct 4, 2021, at 10:54 AM, Ron Fraser=
<<a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofol=
low noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>> wrote:=
</p>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal"> </p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal"><strong>Under tray wood</strong><span c=
lass=3D"yiv2674478179apple-converted-space"> </span>– the offset=
of the body mount holes on my Tiger is 3/16”</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal">I made a cardboard templet per the draw=
ing – pic #1 – the offset angle is acceptable to me</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal">Pic #2 – battery tray over the te=
mplet – in my opinion this sticks out too far and at the front area i=
t is tight to the body</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal">I will make and install this piece befo=
re I make a judgement call on its length – this is not a concours Tig=
er</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal"><strong>Side wood</strong><span class=
=3D"yiv2674478179apple-converted-space"> </span>– I made a piece=
per the drawing and I found that my body mount holes are about a 1/16&rdqu=
o; closer together – I opened the through holes to make this piece fi=
t better I made a 2<sup>nd</sup><span class=3D"yiv2674478179app=
le-converted-space"> </span>piece with the mount holes closer and a be=
tter fit</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal">I do suggest that anyone making this pi=
ece – check the body mount hole distance carefully and make any neede=
d correction.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal">You can make 1 mount hole, install with=
1 screw and mark exactly where the 2<sup>nd</sup><span class=3D"yiv2674478=
179apple-converted-space"> </span>hole is located.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal">Now to apply some wood preservative and=
let them dry – I’ll install these pieces later this month</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal">Ron Fraser</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv2674478179MsoNormal"> </p>
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