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So.., I took my battery out to have a look=E2=80=A6 been a while !! I see a=
piece of 1/4=E2=80=9D plywood that I probably made years ago ( wonder what I=
used for a pattern?) and see the screw holes are 9 7/16=E2=80=9D apart and n=
o evidence that there ever were any other holes. The piece is 3=E2=80=9D wid=
e and the back hole is 1 5/16=E2=80=9D from the right side and the front hol=
e is 1 7/16=E2=80=9D from the right side =46rom looking at my layout on th=
e back of the wood, it appears like I drilled the wood to match existing tru=
nk holes other wise if I was =E2=80=98creating=E2=80=99 holes in the trunk I=
would have lined them up even. So=E2=80=A6either I=E2=80=99ve redone an exi=
sting incorrect piece=E2=80=A6or I have the holy grail, or something in betw=
een. 55 year old car and all. Still a mystery. Lol
Definitely need more input
Jim
B382000446
Sent from my ShoePhone
> On Sep 23, 2021, at 1:11 PM, jim via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:=
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> Ron
> =20
> The very comprehensive =E2=80=98bolt list=E2=80=99 on Tigers United lists t=
he fasteners for the side piece as 2 - #6 x =C2=BE=E2=80=9D machine screw fl=
at head Philips and shows nothing for a lower piece of wood
> For those who don=E2=80=99t know their Beech from their Birch, as a carpen=
ter I DO know=E2=80=A6 lol
> =20
> The fine grain European Beech is on the left and lighter grain Birch on th=
e right
> Both samples are sawn ( NOT plywood )
> =20
> <image002.jpg>
> <image003.jpg>
> =20
> That side wood drawing actually has a part # 2231040 There are a few part=
#s in the parts book for the trunk that are 22310xx but not that one=E2=80=A6=
kinda like those wedges for the front top to windshield =E2=80=A6 they exis=
t=E2=80=A6 but not in any list. That might be the case with the possible low=
er filler under the battery=E2=80=A6 maybe Buck has seen a drawing at the Ro=
otes trust for one ??
> =20
> Jim
> B382000446
> =20
> From: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>=20
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 5:39 PM
> To: 'Jim' <jim@island.net>
> Cc: 'Gary' <garywinblad@comcast.net>; tigers@autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: [Tigers] Trunk wood
> =20
> Jim
> Assume! =20
> Beech wood Drawing date =E2=80=93 14.1.64 =3D Jan 14, 1964 and label=
ed Alpine 260 =20
> the holes are countersunk so probably 2 =E2=80=93 flat countersunk head sc=
rews x 5/8=E2=80=9D?
> =20
> My part does not have those dimensions but this part drawing may have been=
updated by the time my Tiger was built.
> My part is longer, wider and the holes are not on the center line of the p=
art, they are off set up, I=E2=80=99m also not sure it is the original part.=
> I will have to take more measurements when I take the battery out at the e=
nd of the season.
> =20
> This is a great starting point for this part.
> Ron Fraser
> =20
> From: Jim <jim@island.net>=20
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 7:36 PM
> To: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
> Cc: Gary <garywinblad@comcast.net>; tigers@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Trunk wood
> =20
> Factory drawing.
> =20
> <image001.jpg>
> =20
>=20
> Not sure about bottom piece
> =20
>=20
> Jim
>=20
> Sent from my ShoePhone
> =20
> =20
>=20
> On Sep 22, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> Excellent, keep us informed
> =20
> Ron
> =20
> From: Gary <garywinblad@comcast.net>=20
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 6:08 PM
> To: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
> Cc: Tigers@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Trunk wood
> =20
> Ron,
> I believe there was only two wood pieces.
> Only one under the battery on the inboard=20
> side (in the depression on the floor).
> I seem to remember it was plywood and my
> plies had become separated and deteriorated.
> Paul Reisentz had the wood reproduced for
> his restored cars and there is a supply left.
> =20
> The next time I go there I will measure them
> as well as get them available. I can=E2=80=99t guarantee=20
> they are perfectly correct but I would
> bet on it!
> Gary Winblad=20
> =20
>=20
> Sent from my iPhone
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On Sep 22, 2021, at 2:56 PM, Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> A good question has come up.
> Should there be 2 pieces of wood in the trunk associated with the battery?=
> =20
> There is 1 piece screwed to the body at the side of the battery.
> =20
> Was there originally a 2nd piece of wood under the battery tray?
> =20
> I put plywood under my battery tray to get the battery mostly level with n=
o rocking.
> =20
> If there is a 2nd piece of wood =E2=80=93 what are the dimensions?
> =20
> Ron Fraser
> =20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">So.., I took my battery out to have a look=E2=
=80=A6 been a while !! I see a piece of 1/4=E2=80=9D plywood that I pr=
obably made years ago ( wonder what I used for a pattern?) and see the screw=
holes are 9 7/16=E2=80=9D apart and no evidence that there ever were any ot=
her holes. The piece is 3=E2=80=9D wide and the back hole is 1 5/16=E2=80=9D=
from the right side and the front hole is 1 7/16=E2=80=9D from the right si=
de =46rom looking at my layout on the back of the wood, it appears li=
ke I drilled the wood to match existing trunk holes other wise if I was =E2=80=
=98creating=E2=80=99 holes in the trunk I would have lined them up even. So=E2=
=80=A6either I=E2=80=99ve redone an existing incorrect piece=E2=80=A6or I ha=
ve the holy grail, or something in between. 55 year old car and all. Still a=
mystery. Lol<div><div>Definitely need more input</div><div><br></div><div>J=
im</div><div>B382000446</div><div><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my ShoePhon=
e<div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Sep 2=
3, 2021, at 1:11 PM, jim via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:<br>=
<br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<=
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class=3D"WordSection1"><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Ron<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-CA">The very comprehensive =E2=80=98bolt list=E2=80=99 on Tig=
ers United lists the fasteners for the side piece as 2 - #6 x =C2=BE=E2=80=9D=
machine screw flat head Philips and shows nothing for a lower piece of wood=
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">For those w=
ho don=E2=80=99t know their Beech from their Birch, as a carpenter I DO know=
=E2=80=A6 lol<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-C=
A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">T=
he fine grain European Beech is on the left and lighter grain Birch on the r=
ight<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Both s=
amples are sawn ( NOT plywood )<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span lang=3D"EN-CA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-CA"><div><image002.jpg></div><div><image003.jpg></d=
iv></span><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span lang=3D"EN-CA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-CA">That side wood drawing actually has a part # 2231040 T=
here are a few part #s in the parts book for the trunk that are 22310xx but n=
ot that one=E2=80=A6 kinda like those wedges for the front top to windshield=
=E2=80=A6 they exist=E2=80=A6 but not in any list. That might be the case w=
ith the possible lower filler under the battery=E2=80=A6 maybe Buck has seen=
a drawing at the Rootes trust for one ??<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Jim<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span lang=3D"EN-CA">B382000446<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span lang=3D"EN-CA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D"border:no=
ne;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><b>From:</b> Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com> <br><b>Sent:</b=
> Wednesday, September 22, 2021 5:39 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Jim' <jim@island.n=
et><br><b>Cc:</b> 'Gary' <garywinblad@comcast.net>; tigers@autox.te=
am.net<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Tigers] Trunk wood<o:p></o:p></p></div></div>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jim <o:p>=
</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> &=
nbsp; Assume! &nb=
sp; <o:p></o:p></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal">Beech wood Drawing da=
te =E2=80=93 14.1.64 =3D Jan 14, 1964 and labeled Alpine 260 &nbs=
p; <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">the holes are countersu=
nk so probably 2 =E2=80=93 flat countersunk head screws x 5/8=E2=80=9D?<o:p>=
</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
>My part does not have those dimensions but this part drawing may have been u=
pdated by the time my Tiger was built.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
My part is longer, wider and the holes are not on the center line of the par=
t, they are off set up, I=E2=80=99m also not sure it is the original part.<o=
:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I will have to take more measurements wh=
en I take the battery out at the end of the season.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">This is a great star=
ting point for this part.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ron Fraser<o:=
p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style=3D"b=
order:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Jim <<a href=3D"mailto:jim@island.net";>jim@i=
sland.net</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 22, 2021 7:36 PM<br>=
<b>To:</b> Ron Fraser <<a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com";>rfraser@bl=
uefrog.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Gary <<a href=3D"mailto:garywinblad@comc=
ast.net">garywinblad@comcast.net</a>>; <a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.tea=
m.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Trunk wood<=
o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal">Factory drawing.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><div><image001.jpg=
></div><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-b=
ottom:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Not sur=
e about bottom piece<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D=
"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Jim<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l">Sent from my ShoePhone<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:=
12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bo=
ttom:5.0pt"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Sep 22,=
2021, at 3:51 PM, Ron Fraser <<a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com";>rf=
raser@bluefrog.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquo=
te style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
">=EF=BB=BF<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Excellent, keep us informed=
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal">Ron<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p><div><di=
v style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0=
in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Gary <<a href=3D"mailto:garywinbl=
ad@comcast.net">garywinblad@comcast.net</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, S=
eptember 22, 2021 6:08 PM<br><b>To:</b> Ron Fraser <<a href=3D"mailto:rfr=
aser@bluefrog.com">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mai=
lto:Tigers@autox.team.net">Tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [=
Tigers] Trunk wood<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <o=
:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ron,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal">I believe there was only two wood pieces.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p=
class=3D"MsoNormal">Only one under the battery on the inboard <o:p></o=
:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">side (in the depression on the floo=
r).<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I seem to remember it wa=
s plywood and my<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">plies had b=
ecome separated and deteriorated.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal">Paul Reisentz had the wood reproduced for<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal">his restored cars and there is a supply left.<o:p></o:p><=
/p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal">The next time I go there I will measure them<o:p></o:p></p><=
/div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">as well as get them available. I can=E2=
=80=99t guarantee <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">they=
are perfectly correct but I would<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal">bet on it!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Gary Winbl=
ad <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bot=
tom:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent from my iP=
hone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:=
12.0pt"><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-=
bottom:5.0pt"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Sep 2=
2, 2021, at 2:56 PM, Ron Fraser <<a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com";>=
rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockq=
uote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al">=EF=BB=BF<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> &=
nbsp; A good que=
stion has come up.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Should there be 2 pi=
eces of wood in the trunk associated with the battery?<o:p></o:p></p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">There is 1 piece=
screwed to the body at the side of the battery.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Was there originally a=
2<sup>nd</sup> piece of wood under the battery tray?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I put plywood und=
er my battery tray to get the battery mostly level with no rocking.<o:p></o:=
p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">If t=
here is a 2<sup>nd</sup> piece of wood =E2=80=93 what are the dimensions?<o:=
p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l">Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p><p c=
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