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Re: [Tigers] Tiger eplacement carb and alternator Questions

To: Larry Mayfield <drmayf@mayfco.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger eplacement carb and alternator Questions
From: Will Seay via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2021 17:38:16 -0400
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Mayf,
I got the EFI bug some time ago when I saw a series of Hagerty
Youtube videos in which a Fairlane (5-bolt) 289 was rebuilt to a 289
HiPO-ish state and then put it in Brad Phillips Tiger.  The plan was to do
the engine swap and get the engine going with a Holley 4BBL setup and then
switch the 4BBL for a Holley Sniper EFI throttle-body unit.  Brad got his
Tiger going with the 4BBL setup but, to my knowledge, never did the Sniper
install.  Brad's engine swap was recorded in a series of 12 Youtube
videos.  Here are some links:

Here's the first episode of Brad Phillips 289 engine swap:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzWYRPH24Bw&list=WL&index=2&t=26s
Here's the Hagerty time-lapse video of the engine rebuild:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVtrnxx3rTE&t=0s

There is a Youtube video of a dyno test of the engine with and without
EFI.  So far I haven't found a link to it.

I have been making plans to make my car "EFI-ready".  That is, I want to
have a plan for each aspect of the conversion.  Current plan is to replace
the OEM fuel pump with the high pressure pump and to house pump and pre and
post filters in the same area as previously housed the OEM pump.  I have
made up a heat shield for the right-side muffler to keep from roasting the
pump.  Fuel return line will go into the top of the right fuel tank.  I can
provide pictures of the return line fittings if you are interested.  I will
be doing my own harness.  The Holley harness is bass ackwards for a Tiger,
assuming battery up front.  Fuel relay and fuses for fuel pump and EFI will
be located with the pump.  Anticipating that the fuel pump and injectors
will want to suck more current than the OEM generator can provide, I have
done an alternator conversion.  I already have a wide band O2 sensor
installed for a PLX O2 readout so the O2 sensor is already there.  Control
of distributor advance is optional with the Sniper so I don't plan to do
opt for that initially.  Someday I would like to add it though.  Should
improve driveability and maybe performance.

Like I said, I want to make the car "EFI-ready" .  Don't know if I will
actually do the conversion, but I want to at least have it thought out so
that I can get there from here if I decide to.

Will - 382001570
Tigers@embarqmail.com


On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 9:46 AM Larry Mayfield via Tigers <
tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:

> I have  owned my Tiger since Jan 1967, bought it used.  Has been sitting
> quietly now for quite a number of years. And I want to drive it a bit more
> now. But carbs are so old fashioned, lol. So, seeking information from the
> groups experiences, those owners who have replaced the carb with an
> electronic injected version: either 2 bbl or f bbl versions. If 2 bbl then
> I would just use the cast iron intake manifold. If 4 bbl I need to know
> which is best for a bone stock 260 cid which so far in my ownership  has
> never been apart.  I tend to lean toward a 4 bbl version as I have a 5 bolt
> 289 with some performance capability and I would need to buy a manifold for
> that.  I also have my 260 LSR motor which has the full treatment and is a
> real race motor.   So, seeking real world experience on what and which
> brands are most user friendly while putting out power for driving around,
> having some fun (again).
>
>
>
> Larry, mayf, drmayf etc
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">May=
f,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">I got the EF=
I bug some time ago when I saw a series of Hagerty Youtube=C2=A0videos in w=
hich a Fairlane (5-bolt) 289 was rebuilt to a 289 HiPO-ish state and then p=
ut it in Brad Phillips=C2=A0Tiger.=C2=A0 The plan was to do the engine swap=
 and get the engine going with a Holley 4BBL setup and then switch the 4BBL=
 for a Holley Sniper EFI throttle-body unit.=C2=A0 Brad got his Tiger going=
 with the 4BBL setup but, to my knowledge, never did the Sniper install.=C2=
=A0 Brad&#39;s engine swap was recorded in a series of 12 Youtube videos.=
=C2=A0 Here are some links:</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font=
-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:smal=
l">Here&#39;s the first episode of Brad Phillips 289 engine swap:=C2=A0=C2=
=A0<a href=3D"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DCzWYRPH24Bw&amp;list=3DWL&a=
mp;index=3D2&amp;t=3D26s">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DCzWYRPH24Bw&amp=
;list=3DWL&amp;index=3D2&amp;t=3D26s</a></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size:small">Here&#39;s the Hagerty time-lapse video of the en=
gine rebuild:=C2=A0 <a href=3D"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DtVtrnxx3rT=
E&amp;t=3D0s">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DtVtrnxx3rTE&amp;t=3D0s</a><=
br clear=3D"all"></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:smal=
l"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">There i=
s a Youtube video of a dyno test of the engine with and without EFI.=C2=A0 =
So far I haven&#39;t found a link to it.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"f=
ont-size:small">I have been making plans to make my car &quot;EFI-ready&quo=
t;.=C2=A0 That is, I want to have a plan for each aspect of the conversion.=
=C2=A0 Current plan is to replace the OEM fuel pump with the high pressure =
pump and to house pump and pre and post filters in the same area as previou=
sly housed the OEM pump.=C2=A0 I have made up a heat shield for the right-s=
ide muffler to keep from roasting the pump.=C2=A0 Fuel return line will go =
into the top of the right fuel tank.=C2=A0 I can provide pictures of the re=
turn line fittings if you are interested.=C2=A0 I will be doing my own harn=
ess.=C2=A0 The Holley harness is bass ackwards for a Tiger, assuming batter=
y up front.=C2=A0 Fuel relay and fuses for fuel pump and EFI will be locate=
d=C2=A0with the pump.=C2=A0 Anticipating that the fuel pump and injectors w=
ill want to suck more current than the OEM generator can provide, I have do=
ne an alternator conversion.=C2=A0 I already have a wide band O2 sensor ins=
talled for a PLX O2 readout so the O2 sensor is already there.=C2=A0 Contro=
l of distributor advance is optional with the Sniper so I don&#39;t plan to=
 do opt for that initially.=C2=A0 Someday I would like to add it though.=C2=
=A0 Should improve driveability and maybe performance.</div><div class=3D"g=
mail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_defau=
lt" style=3D"font-size:small">Like I said, I want to make the car &quot;EFI=
-ready&quot; .=C2=A0 Don&#39;t know if I will actually do the conversion, b=
ut I want to at least have it thought out so that I can get there from here=
 if I decide to.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small=
"><br></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=
=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Will - 382001570 <br><a href=3D"mailt=
o:Tigers@embarqmail.com" target=3D"_blank">Tigers@embarqmail.com</a></div><=
/div></div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 9:46 AM Larry Mayfield via Tigers &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; w=
rote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0p=
x 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=
=3D"EN-US" style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class=3D"gmail-m_79628=
38752157310756WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have =C2=A0owned my Ti=
ger since Jan 1967, bought it used.=C2=A0 Has been sitting quietly now for =
quite a number of years. And I want to drive it a bit more now. But carbs a=
re so old fashioned, lol. So, seeking information from the groups experienc=
es, those owners who have replaced the carb with an electronic injected ver=
sion: either 2 bbl or f bbl versions. If 2 bbl then I would just use the ca=
st iron intake manifold. If 4 bbl I need to know which is best for a bone s=
tock 260 cid which so far in my ownership=C2=A0 has never been apart.=C2=A0=
 I tend to lean toward a 4 bbl version as I have a 5 bolt 289 with some per=
formance capability and I would need to buy a manifold for that.=C2=A0 I al=
so have my 260 LSR motor which has the full treatment and is a real race mo=
tor. =C2=A0=C2=A0So, seeking real world experience on what and which brands=
 are most user friendly while putting out power for driving around, having =
some fun (again). =C2=A0=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u><=
/u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Larry, mayf, drmayf etc<u></u><u=
></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div=
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